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Re: Larry Hoover, (Sean too), Re: Pfeiffer » McPac

Posted by Larry Hoover on August 1, 2003, at 10:08:24

In reply to Larry Hoover, (Sean too), Re: Pfeiffer, posted by McPac on July 31, 2003, at 23:01:19

> Lar,
>
> Hot off the Press.....I just received Pfeiffer's modification of my supplement plan. They did the follow-up testing about a month ago and based on those test results, here are their changes for me:
>
> 1) Vitamin B-12(Methyl) INcreased from 2,000 mcg to 5,000 mcg SUBLINGUAL (there's a note which says that they want me to consider B-12 injections....don't know if I will due to fact that I'd have to pay for each injection/dr. visit......do you think that the B-12 injections would really be much better than the sublingual form Lar?

Either/or, not both. Regular oral B-12 (i.e. tablets you swallow), at 5,000 mcg/day would be more than adequate. Using sublingual forms would easily exceed the efficacy of the oral form. I can see no reason to consider injections.

> 2) TMG has been INcreased from 500 mg to 1400 mg a day (700 mg/2x a day)

Fine. Just watch for over-stimulation. I'd get insomnia at that dose, but it may be fine for you.

> 3) Vitamin B-5 (Pantothenic Acid) has been added....I was wondering why this wasn't in my regimen from the beginning....the 'anti-stress' vitamin.....500 mg a day

Their rules are arbitrary, IMHO. I did recommend a B-complex to you already. I don't believe in high doses of individual B's, except when they are on top of a B-complex.

> 4) SAM-e has been suggested (it says "if helpful") 200-400 mg/2x a day (Total of 400-800 mg/day).....I think I'm going to try SJW instead though (Pfeiffer recc'd SAM-e because they think I'm still on an ssri....since I'm NOT, I'll try SJW instead)

Sounds good to me.

> 5)Zinc Picolinate has been INcreased from 85 mg to 165 mg (despite taking 85 mg of Zinc for 7 months, my Zinc level FELL from a 96 to a 91 (per Pfeiffer's lab scale)! They say they want my Zinc between 105-130....my ratio of zinc:copper has improved though

Picolinate? When I researched chromium picolinate a few weeks back, I discovered compelling evidence that picolinic acid has adverse effects. Find a different form of zinc, OK? I use citrate, but I've also used chelated zinc.

It takes months, even years, to get a the zinc/copper ratio adjusted, it you're high copper to begin with.

> 6) Methionine INcreased from 2,000 mg to 2,500 mg/day

Whatever, on that one.

> **ALL other supp's remained the same.........I'll follow this plan and in time I'll see if I can "Feel" a difference....any thoughts compadres?

It took me years to fine-tune and adapt to my own supplement regimen. My advice is not to look for a "quick-fix" effect, but instead, a change in long-term trends. We're talking subtle change, which is really very hard to notice, unless you keep a very detailed mood diary, or such.

Lar

 

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