Posted by tealady on October 14, 2003, at 3:39:04
In reply to Re: Carbohydrates and weight » tealady, posted by Zarah78 on October 13, 2003, at 22:46:19
> More protein helps with the sugar drops? No one has ever really explained why this sudden craze of high protein diets, but I guess that makes sense, considering the carb levels in complex sugars (or vice versa). I dont notice the 'dumping' effect until about 2 hours after eating unless I've had a lot of sweets or a carb-based meal with lots of fruits, with the exception of fruit as snacks.
Well that's how it's supposed to work..about when the insulin overhits if you ate too much carbs
The sudden plunge takes about 10-20 min after eating an apple as an energy boosting snack to tide me over until lunch time or dinner.
Yes, so when you eat an apple also eat somehing that is protein/fat..like eat an apple AND some cheese ..or an apple AND some almonds,&brazil nutsI usually end up needing something more substantial within an hour or I really feel sick.
That's the too high carb probably. It's worth a try of these diets for starters.
This whole mess ends up being pretty confusing for me, but I have noticed one thing that helps control my sugar: milk! What is milk? Protein? Carb? Fat? (usually 1% "chalk water" that my boyfriend leaves all for me.) :)OK milk is protein, fat and carbs ..but a 2% milk is in the ratio of the Goddess diet I mentioned..and a wholemilk (the male milk) is in the guidelines of the Atkins diet (probably..as I've not read it)..wholemilk has more fat and a tad less protein.
I use the female milk(1%), but then I also eat cream..which would bring me back in the 2% or over range <g>Like I just ate some pawpaw..which I love and ain't goin to give up..and I like a tiny bit of raw sugar sprinkled on it..so then I pour on a heap of cream..and then when I eat it I don't go hypoglycemic...I also don't lose weight <g>..the fat in the cream balances out carbs a bit. Then again It's best to eat this after some meat to be sure...
Good snacks/meals during the day would be say
.pineapple and cottage cheese
.low fat yoghurt and some berries
.say 6 almonds and 3 brazil nuts and perhaps some raw veges like a carrot, salad greens, etc
.sardines on 1/2 slice wholemeal toast
.a boiled egg and some spinach/lettuce/parsley
.carrots and cheese
.carrots, celery and a cheese dip
. small apple, slice of cheese,couple of nutsetc..you have to balance out the carbs with some protein/fat to stop the hypoglycemic thingy happening. Give it a go
not saying you lose weight (it's the portion size here that counts as well as exercise)..but you won't go hypoglycemic.
and you are supposed to eat every 2.5 to 3 hours or so>
> I'm hoping that if I can get my diet more balanced it might help me deal with the mood swings and such, then maybe I'll start losing weight with the exercise finally!! Motivation/ambition seem to be my biggest adversaries in getting out to the gym as often as I'd like.
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> Thank you! :)
> -Zarah78
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> PS- Are all carbs bad for people with blood sugar issues or just the sugary kind? What kinds are good/safe, if any?
No carbs are good..you need some..it's the complex carbs that are good..the highly processed foods ..like white flour, white bread, sugar, sugary jams , lollies etc are bad..
the carbs in veges, fruit etc is good..even a small amount of wholemeal/multigrain bread,
basically just don't sit down to a meal of just potatoes..like Macca's fries is not good as the oils heated are bad and potatoes are too much carb on their ownalso white rice is bad..wholemeal rice ..a little is OK, but you will get away with a SMALL portion of white rice if you eat with other food without the hypoglycemic thing happening (just don't do often)
so veges good, fruit good(if sweet ones balanced with some protein), grains..Ok in moderation especially if whole grains etc, but his is where most of the cutting needs to be
If your only trying to overcome the hypoglycemic dumping , you can probably get away occasional slips ..like one slice of white bread and jam(fruit based..not the sugary kind)..provided you also pour on some cream and perhaps eat some salmon, eggs etc first<g>...got the idea? You just can't eat the carbs/sugars on their own. I'll probably get killed for saying this but I think it's true..Of course , it depends on how badly hypoglycemic you are, but most could get away with it. (THis is NOT recommended in the diets, I think)
It's best to try to eat healthy at the same time..
the steak and 3 veg/salad for dinner, or
grilled fish&salad
or salmon/fish for brekkie
Or eggs and bacon with an orange (juice)
Or whole grain (not the fast cook ones) rolled oats and 1% milk with a tiny sprinkling of raw sugar (just not every day)
Or cauliflower/broccoli/carrots in cheese sauce with some turkey
Or chicken and vege soup
etcBorrow those books from the library..I know the goddess diet has many recipes in it (has US foods in it)..haven't seen the Zone but a lot of folk recommend it
> > With hypoglycemia (low blood sugar levels) what may be happening is too much insulin s being dumped into your body as a reaction to too high a carb level..so eating more protein, eating more frequent and smaller meals both help in preventing the higher carb levels...which means you don't get the higher insulin secreted..and don't go so hypoglycemic.
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So get the books and give it a go. The Goddess book recommends about 5 small meals a day I think, as the total amount of carbs also causes the dumping..so you really can't just fill up in one mealJan
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