Posted by utopizen on March 20, 2004, at 21:29:46
In reply to Re: Stims etc Hattree, posted by gabbix2 on March 20, 2004, at 20:19:20
No, it wasn 't a big leap to give a leaper back in the day. At one point in the 60's, 8 billion amphetamine pills were produced in this country.
But now with Provigil, it's unlikely any psychiatrist would give a stimulant until the patient failed. I've got several sleep docs, trust me, even with my narcolepsy they want me to go off Desoxyn (methamphetamine) if the combo of Straterra+Provigil works on making me awake.
And keep in mind they know I've failed any response to Provigil at 400mg! (My doc claims he's seen patients fail either one and then later succeed on the combo).
For med-induced somnolence, your doc will dispense Provigil. Guaranteed. He or she will even be unlikely to consider a stimulant if your husband fails Provigil. They'd rather switch the meds causing the somnolence than prescribe a C-II.
No, they don't have any issues with the C-IIs for ADD, that's for sure. But one of the reasons why the DEA and ADDers and p-docs all sort of get along is that there's a sort of understanding things like weight loss (which Desoxyn continues to be FDA-approved for).
And, um, if your husband is asking for a stimulant for sleepiness from the meds rather than just complaining of sleepiness from the meds, and if I was a doctor, I'd make a point not to prescribe any stim for your husband even if I had a policy to prescribe stims for med-induced somnolence to every other patient. That's because it sounds like drug-seeking behavior.
Anyway, why you'd want your husband on another drug instead of trying out a different (activating) SSRI, a lower dose of Klonopin if it's tolerable, or simply try Provigil, I'm not sure??
I'm literally counting the days until I can go off my stim for narcolepsy/ADHD, Desoxyn. I've been on all the stims before. They all cause me to be anxious, overly-talkative, often makes it hard to sleep, gives you hyper-focused concentration on often unproductive things, causes dry mouth, makes you sweat more so you need Drysol prescriptions, eventually influencing your decision to go onto the Botox underarm injections bandwagon for $1500, makes you socially awkward, and so on.
The Provigil+Straterra combo might not work, but at least this summer, I can try it. Otherwise, it means I need to stay on amphetamines for the rest of my life. The way you guys talk of them seems to pretend you've never written an excessively long rambling message like this one, or an E-Mail you later regret sending the next morning, or sounded dorky in front of others while on it. I've had my share of experiences with the stimulants, and there's a reason why I don't feel the same way I did about using them the first week I got them.
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