Posted by KaraS on August 17, 2004, at 16:10:02
In reply to Re: Bye Bye Ambien, Hello Restoril » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 16, 2004, at 6:31:21
> > > I have insomnia sometimes that excrcise and clean food won't solve. This insomnia is purely because most the meds I take are "up" energy types.
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> > > Ambien, kept me slightly sedated for 24 hours after the 8 hours sleep.
> > > Klon also sedatedme for days after.
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> > > I've been trying Restoril /temazepam and it's is the best thing sense sliced bread wrapped in plastic with wire twisters.
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> > > It sdates reduces my anxiety for about 4 hours until i hit a deep sleep. I then appear to sleep solid and on my own for anther 4 hours. I a wake up all fired up ready to attack the world.
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> > Can that be taken long-term or just on an as-needed basis?
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> First, I want to say that temazepam had the same miraculously restorative effect in me.
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> Second, about long-term use. There is the standard "anti-benzo" policy that I keep seeing in other aspects of benzodiazepine therapies being applied to temazepam as a sleep aid. I.e. "only for short-term therapy, not to exceed 4-6 weeks". Bollocks.
Isn't that similar to the situation with Ambien?
Some people can take it long-term but others do develop tolerance (though the proportion of people developing tolerance is less that with the benzos). Correct?
> I could show you articles in the literatue demonstrating efficacy after 17 years. After using temazepam with great effect for about 18 months, my pdoc decided to "fix what ain't broke", and withdrew me from temazepam in favour of Remeron. Thus began a horror-story of weight gain and sexual dysfunction (yes, mirtazapine causes sexual dysfunction, despite claims to the contrary) and sleep disturbance (yes, I know it's supposed to help there too). After adding in trazadone (fourth trial of that....feels like all the pleasure of a hangover without the fun of the drunk the night before), he reluctantly let me go back to temazepam, but it didn't work as well as it had before. :-/
I took trazadone for sleep for a short while too. The nausea and grogginess just never went away. It was horrible stuff for me.Regarding your experience with Restoril and SJW as well as my experience with maca, I just don't understand how something can effect the same person so differently when tried a little while later. If the stuff stopped working the first time you took it and then you try it again at a later date and it doesn't work well, I could understand it. But when it works fine, you stop and then start again, it should work the same way damn it! It just doesn't make sense to me. It's hard enough finding things that work but to have them not work again for no reason.... it's like we're always trying to hit a moving target.
> So, right now I take 30 mg temazepam QHS, along with 25 mg trimipramine (a sedating tricyclic), also QHS, and .3-.4 mg melatonin. Seems to work OK most nights, but I wish I got the temazepam effect I started out with. It was gloriously restorative. Miraculously so.
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> Lar
>What about the taurine? Are you still taking that? Also, what is QHS? I'm kind of surprised that you took the Remeron. It must be hard dealing wtih doctors when you probably know more than most of them out there...
Kara
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