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Re: MAOs and Ultram together? » ZenTen

Posted by Larry Hoover on November 30, 2004, at 22:30:21

In reply to MAOs and Ultram together?, posted by ZenTen on November 29, 2004, at 11:01:35

> Hi, I've recently been asking questions on here regarding Nardil/Parnate,as my psych is going to most likely be putting me on it in a week. Currently, I am only taking Ultram/tramadol at 50mgs TID, for pain and Ambien as well as Seroquel 25 mgs or Zyprexa 2.5 for sleep. I've been on this med for a long time. Incidentally, Ultram also helps quite a bit with my depression on it's own! More so than any AD with no side-effects! Though its effects have waned after 7 months of use.
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> I know that Demerol is seriously contraindicated with any MAO and other opiods seem ok in half doses. Ultram, as far as I am aware has slight opiod properties, as well as low serotonin and norephinpherine binding and is somewhat similar to Effexor chemically. This in itself seems to makes it a big no no, to take with Nardil or Parnate.
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> I havent seen any literature on taking the 2 together.
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> Does anyone know anything about this or does anyone take Ultram/tramdol and an MAO together, or have any experience with it?

I was surprised to find that neither drug monograph for Nardil or Parnate specifically lists a warning about combining with tramadol. I thought the serotinergic activity of the latter would be enough to increase the risk of serotonin syndrome into the "concerned" zone, if not "risky".

I think it would be prudent to understand the symptoms of serotonin syndrome, and have an idea how to manage it if it does occur.

Lar

 

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