Posted by jujube on December 21, 2004, at 15:22:25
In reply to Re: Stimulant Dependence and Abuse » jujube, posted by ed_uk on December 21, 2004, at 14:37:36
It is such a shame when some pdocs can be so close-minded, and such a disservice to the patient who ends up receiving marginal or inadequate treatment.
If it is any comfort, I have noticed a definite improvement in my energy, motivation and mood since I started using NADH and DMAE, and it has only been a week. Plus, I have not had to use the NADH every day. I used it for four days in a row (increasing the dose from 2.5 mg to 7.5 mg), and have taken a break for the past three days. The other natural supplement I started taking was Vitex, which is supposed to work on dopamine, and is used by some women in particular for PMS. However, I did read a post on PB by a guy who was using Vitex for the dopamine effects. The other natural product you might want to consider is Picamilon. At doses of 50 mg, three times a day, it works as a very good anxiety supplement without sedation. At doses of 100 mg, three times a day, it apparently works as a stimulant without causing anxiety. I have not tried it yet. It is not available in Canada, and I think that one of the ingredients may be restricted for import to Canada. I am still checking on that since I would like to try it.
I just ordered more NADH, and will likely start using 10 mg 3 - 4 times a week. You might want to read some old posts by a guy named Ron Hill. He had very good results with NADH for a many months. His posts and posts by Larry about NADH encouraged me to give it a try before pressing my doc for Modafinil.
Good luck to you Ed. Hope your exams go well.
Tamara
> Hi!
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> I doubt that my pdoc would even consider prescribing modafinil... which is a shame because I would really like to try it. In the mean time I might try one of the supplements that you suggested.
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> Best Wishes,
> Ed.
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