Posted by Mistermindmasta on November 29, 2005, at 2:33:16
In reply to another interesting thing..!..Mistermindmasta, posted by spriggy on November 29, 2005, at 0:08:44
> I read as much as I could online about cytokines and found it VERY ironic (or coincidental more like it) that the FOUR things I have been diagnosed with, according to the info I read, are directly related to high cytokines..
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> There was especially a lot of info on high cytokines causing Fibromyalgia, Asthma- and I found a few articles on autoimmune disease (my lupus) and Epstein Barr.
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> I've had Epstein Barr in my blood work in extremely high numbers, Fibromyalgia diagnosed, Asthma/allergies suddenly, and Have had 4 positive ANA tests (plus the butterfly rash) for Lupus.
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> You have NO idea how much insight this has given me. I feel like this makes sense. It's NOT ALL IN MY HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'm glad I've given you some hope!
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> It is VERY possible this is what has happened to me; the yeast infections/fungal infections, fevers, achiness, etc..
>Yep, it is possible.
> Do you think my doctor would listen to me if I shared all this and asked to be tested???
Well, like I said in my initial post... there hasn't been enough studies for a normal doc to be convinced. I would not surprised if he labeled your presentation of these ideas to him as "delusional" or "paranoid" ideas.
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> What can they do to lower them?To lower cytokines? As your asthma / FMS / lupus improves, your cytokines should also become a bit more normal. What that really means is that if you want to lower your cytokines, you should really be trying to improve your physical state of health.
Fish oil and probiotics have both shown general anti-inflammatory effects and could be good for you. I honestly haven't researched lupus / asthma, EBV, etc a whole lot but you should be trying to scope out what theories are out there as to what causes these diseases... for example, in multiple sclerosis, there's a fairly strong bit of anecdotal evidence suggesting the gluten protein in wheat plays a role in the MS disease... i don't know what role diet plays in lupus, for example, but it would be worth your research to spend a few hours doing some google searches. I believe that as you find something that starts to lessen your illnesses, then you'll be on the right track. That probably sounds too vague but I don't know how to put it any other way. Physical health will equal mental health...
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> I read one doctor suggested water therapy (being in 85 degree water suspended or something).
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>never heard of this...
> I am fascinated.
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>yeah, it is all VERY fascinating indeed
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