Posted by linkadge on February 11, 2007, at 16:51:44
In reply to Re: low dose risperdal -- linkadge, posted by munificentexegete on February 11, 2007, at 15:24:42
For starters, nobody is forcing you to take any of these drugs. If you don't believe they are safe, then don't take them, no harm done.
>many people have many hypotheses about many >things, some people think including myself that >time travel is possible, although there is no >reproducable evidence supporting the cause of >psychosis meaning it is merely an unsupported >hypothesis at best, not scientific fact.
I am not saying that any one identifyable cause of psychosis has ever been established, nor do I think there will ever be. I am simply saying that people's suffering is real. Considering the lack of viable alternatives, I think the judicious use of antipsychotics is warrented.
>do you really think there is only one case of TD >with risperdal. EPS, NMS, TD, dystonias, >akathisia, parkinsonism its all there in >risperidone and any side effect profile worth >its salt points it out. I just pointed out that >court cases have been won meaning it is also >legal fact too.
Yes. it is a legal fact that these drugs *can* cause neurological problems. Just as cases have been won on the issue of antidepressnats causing people to commit suicide. Again, this does not conclude that everybody who takes these drugs will have this side effect.
>what disease?
It really doesn't matter what you want to call it, disease or otherwise. If you are saying that suffering is not real just because it cannot be observed under a microscope then I think we have lost the point.
>most of the studies assume EPS including TD >occurs and try to point out that it produces >relatively less incidence of EPS/TD. They change >the doses to make it seem this way.
I don't understand.
>i think it is fairly well established that >risperdal causes EPS including TD.
No. It is well established that risperidal *can* cause TD. The *numerical* indicence has not been established. I took risperidal, I did not develop TD. So therefore it is not true that risperidal causes TD in everybody.
>So the next issue it what is the max single dose >that can induce serious eps, i think it is about >aorund 5 to 6 mg depending on size weight and >sex of the patient. Then what is the risk of >tardive dyskinesias from long term treatment, it >may be a 2% chance with 300mg, 20% chance @ >600mg and a 50% chance at 900 mg
But, nobody takes that much risperidal.
>then doctors and patients could make informed >choices at least regarding the potential for >serious permanent brain disease from
>antipsychotic medication.>is psychosis even a medical issue?
Maybe not. But unforunately, there are no other established treatments for the problem. If it is not a medical issue what do you recomend? Excorcism? Studies suggest that these problem tend to get worse over time.
Linkadge
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