Posted by x-tof on May 12, 2008, at 4:49:41
In reply to Re: stablon/tianeptine is not working at all!, posted by undopaminergic on May 11, 2008, at 18:25:47
> > Do you think Sulperide would have an impact on the anxiety?
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> Sulpiride does have some anxiolytic properties. However, it's more effective to improve motivation and initiative.
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> > BTW:I wonder what is in the Paroxetine that made me feel so good. It didn't last long however; I started with half a pill and that worked for about 2-3 weeks, then a whole pill which worked again for about 3 weeks. So whatever it is, it's something that is addicting...
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> It may be either the serotonin-elevating effect, or the muscarininc acetylcholine receptor blockade. In the former case, the effect should be reproducible with sertraline (Zoloft), and in the latter case effective alternatives may be atropine, scopolamine, biperiden, trihexiphenidyl, benztropine or procyclidine.
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> Paroxetine is an SSRI that seems to be particularly liable to producing a withdrawal syndrome on discontinuation, so in that sense it can certainly be addicting.
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> > I tried Picamilon for 2 days some days ago but didn't feel any difference either. Of course that was in combination with the Stablon. Maybe it would give a better effect without the Stablon.But I've read it has some MAO effect and I don't think that would be a good idea to combine with the Nortryptiline and Amytriptiline I'm taking (although it's both is small doses...)?Any experts on this one?
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> I haven't heard of picamilon having a MAOI effect, but in any case, nortriptyline and amitriptyline are safe to combine with MAOIs (imipramine and clomipramine are not).
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> I didn't notice much effect of picamilon either. Theanine (L-theanine), however, has definite effects - have you tried it? (My suggestion is to buy it in free form as a powder.)
I tried Effexor for some months, but no effect there also.I had to stick to the starting dose (37,5mg) because if I took 75mg, the same happened as with Paroxetine : I got very depressed.And either way, it didn't improve anything to my anxiety.So I never had the same experience with an ssri as I had with Paroxetine in the first 6 weeks.I tried Zoloft for some days, it just made me nausia.I used Paroxetine for about 8 weeks, and it took me about 10 weeks to get off it, terrible product!I guess a small dose of sulpiride might be helpfull. What dose is that? 100mg?
I haven't heard about Theanine.Can the powder be bought at the pharmacist? How much do you take? The caps I find on the internet are 150mg (Solgar).I have tried other natural tranquilizers such as valerian,passionflower, etc but without any results.
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