Posted by uncouth on August 28, 2011, at 1:29:31
In reply to Re: Day two: Thoughts on AndroGel (+Nardil +Xanax), posted by Phillipa on August 26, 2011, at 21:05:26
hey
i can't remember if i posted about this two months ago but your experience with androgel is almost exactly similar to mine. i have had TRT depression / bipolar depression for 7 years now, at times its been better sometimes its been worse. my T tested low 500s last year, endo gave me androgel, i used max dose but never really felt meaningful response. also tried T shots a few times but not sure i ever did them correctly (should have just had doctor do them every week).9 months lager, my T had actually DROPPED to mid 300s. so this was why i had no libido, no passion, drive for the world. i could orgasm just fine and could get an erection but the more important parts of libido, the passion, desire for a relationship, love, etc. wasn't ever there. it was all mechanical and hopeless etc. and of course depression was unresponsive to many meds including dopamine stimulation.
SO went back to endo, said F this androgel, it didn't do anything, and now my T is even lower. what to do. well he gave me this brand new T gel that you use under your underarm called Axiron. WHoa. Definitely felt a difference, within a few days. Sexy thoughts came back, energy level, depression improved. Like you I said, so wow you mean i just had low T the whole time? And my pdoc didn't look at this option? I was pretty pissed. I felt good enough to decrease my bupropion from 800mg to 600mg.
Well it was either the bupropion decrease or i just developed tolerance to the T becuase i've kinda reverted to baseline. I am still using two swipes of Axiron. I can tell that i've gained muscle mass (i have a big build) the past two months from the T, though, and not even by doing any weightlifting. Its kinda brought me back to my previous frame size. I am going and getting new labs on monday so we'll see where T is at. I wont' be afraid to push the dose higher if necessary, as i need to get sexual desire and libido back somehow. I can't go on like this. The only weird thing was that the first two weeks of axiron, the sexual thoughts that came back were of sex with MEN, and i don't consider myself gay. Maybe a little bi but i had a huge crush on a girl at the time, have only had GFs in the past, etc. So yes it was a little distressing for me to start cruising around for random hookups with gay guys. Well more than a little distressing (thats for another post). So maybe there is too much going on, i think my sexual preference switch was more due to the general hypersexuality or hypomanic tendencies, and the facct that at least in SF, the quickest way to find someone to get you off is to typically target gay men. Much "easier" than to bag a girl at a bar. At least for me.
So anyway thats MY story. Please keep posting on androgel and T experience. Watch out for hypomania or hypersexuality and please be open and honest and share fi you will any other odd "side effects" of the sexual nature.
OH and i would highly recommend the Axiron instead of the androgel which made absolutley no difference to me.
uncouth
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