Posted by bleauberry on January 11, 2014, at 12:49:56
In reply to Suicide Attempt, posted by Danielj on January 10, 2014, at 9:41:11
Scott. Here is my layman brain thinking out loud..
26 years old. Bang. Right off the bat, something's wrong. That's a young brain. What could go so badly wrong? And it's been 10 years? That means whatever happened, happened when he was 16 years old.
10 years. That's too long. Something is wrong. The meds are missing the mark., Why? What's up? This is not looking like a neurotransmitter thing any more. Chemical imbalance? Cough.
Schizo. Ya know, any time I see that word, infection and toxin automatically pops into my head. Something really strong impacting the brain there. Gosh, to get a brain that crazy, something is really wrong, and it aint a shortage of serotonin. Don't know what it is, but if I were to go by what my doctors see in their clinical setting everyday, then an infection has to be at the top of the list, it's the only thing I know of other than a poison that can so badly mess up the brain that way, and in fact an infection is exactly like a poison in the brain due to its chemicals which are neurotoxic.
Does that mean to me that anyone I see with schizo symptoms has an undiagnosed infection or toxin accumulation? No it does not. But those are at the top of the list for further investigation. And when it seems like the doc is running out of ideas, the meds are working badly, progress is not being made, then it makes justifiable sense to me....to get to that list.
On second reading of the author's original post, we have no knowledge whatsoever of the other variables involved in this case. Divorced? Struggling other ways? Fired from job? Girlfriend left? Dad screamed? Car in the shop can't pay? There is other stuff maybe involved that we don't know.
But again, 10 years, suicide attempt, schizo....that's pretty much all I need to see in this case. But see, someone else might look at that same scenario and say, "that's the way psychiatry is, it's all trial and error, if one med doesn't work try another", and it's all sort taken with an general attitude of "idiopathic". All this stuff "just is the way it is". ???
If I could talk with this family in person, my first question would be "where were you living when he was 16 years old"? More questions too, but that's the first one. The answer could be very important.
> I haven't posted recently but my 26 yr old son attempted suicide a couple of days ago. To make it worse we weren't notified till last night around 5 PM that he was in the ICU. He survived though we wondered how after hearing he took over 20 exrta strength excedrin drank both 3 in one oil and penetrating oil oouch! They did an endoscopy an found (thank goodness) only mild inflammation of esophagus and stomach lining.
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> His Diag was schizo affect. and has been for nearly ten years. Taking 15 mg of Zyprexa and 100 mg Zoloft. After talking to him last night we discovered it sounded like suicidal ideations were
> what pushed him over the edge. I think maybe discontinuation of Zoloft is the first thing that will help. Interestingly enough his ideations coincide with a switch from Prozac to Zoloft.
> Your thoughts?
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