Posted by Lou Pilder on April 20, 2015, at 20:07:40
In reply to Lou's reply- pillars of hate-defamation/ wish dead, posted by Lou Pilder on April 17, 2015, at 14:14:27
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You say that you do not follow my logic. I say to you that what you have posted here could result in the deaths or addictions or life-ruining conditions to other readers here and I am asking that we have an immediate discussion here.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou, your assertion is misleading, inflammatory and unfair. Nothing I posted "could result in" (i.e., be relevantly causally related to) any of the terrible consequences that you imply in your statement would flow naturally from the post I made.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >This is all because the psychiatrist that operates this forum is allowing your claims here to be seen as supportive and I think otherwise,>
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The psychiatrist who operates this forum imposes as a condition of participation that no-one infers from the posts published here that medical advice is being supplied. The purpose of this forum is not in the online supply of clinical advice on which participants are intended to act but in describing, and thinking out-loud about, medication problems and *possible* medication strategies that participants might *think over*. No post here carries the express or implied intention or expectation that the content of any post should be acted upon *because* of any assumed expertise in the poster or because the reader has read the post here. Indeed, such expectations are very properly, and responsibly, expressly excluded by Dr Hsiung.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and your claim that Mirtazapine is used to treat SS, and that the site drugs.com has erroneous information is what is in issue here.>
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I never "claimed" that Mirtazapine "is used" (i.e., in the ordinary meaning of that aspect of the tense you have chosen to express my original comment in, habitually) to treat serotonin toxicity. I said that it "has been used" to treat such toxicity; and I say further than an authority argues persuasively that the serotonergic potency of mirtazapine is low to negligible in humans, a fact which the safe combination of venlafaxine and mirtazapine appears to bear out: see Human Psychopharmacology: Clinical and Experimental, (2006) 21, pp 117-25.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You produce accurately my claim, based in my experience, that the drug interaction section of drugs.com *has* erroneous information. I.e., that occassionally its information is erroneous in the level of detail it provides. Yet you then proceed, in one of your highly tendentiously phrased questions, to assert that I claimed that drugs.com is not "based on facts". I never claimed such a thing, nor did I ever claim to profess to a degree of knowledge of the entirety of drugs.com beyond my experience of it. My knowledge that it sometimes throws up erroneous information derives, in the instance to which I adverted, from its assertion that the combination of mirtazapine and venlafaxine poses a *major* risk of serotonin toxicity. Drugs.com also asserts that the combination of tranylcypromine and nortriptyline poses a *major* risk of serotonin syndrome, an assertion that is inconsistent with a clinical assessment of the pharmacological mechanisms of each drug. I would pose in reply to you the challenge to produce a citation which demonstrates this information to be accurate.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most certainly did I not assert, or imply, that drugs.com contains information that is *always* or *mostly* erroneous. Not did I ever suggest that drugs.com should not be used or consulted. My point was that it is *better* to refer to specialist views rather than generic information as provided by drugs.com *exclusively*. Drugs.com may be a first port of call, but it shouldn't be the only one.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you could post answers to the following then by my responses I could address your claims here in what I think could save livesprevent life-ruining conditions and addictions.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not propose to oblige you in this matter, given the tendentious and quite frankly deeply offensive way you have chosen to phrase your questions. Your purpose is not, clearly, fair-mindedly to elicit clarifications but to inflame prejudice. My answers are as provided above.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I note that you have had a habit of delivering yourself of outrageously unfair imputations against Dr. Hsiung. I do not propose to engage with you further given the nature of the imputations you have chosen to direct at myself.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It may also be as well to remind you that the primary purpose of this thread is to offer responses to fido; it is not meant for you to indulge in the riding of eccentric hobby-horses.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You wrote,[...Nothing I Posted could result in...any of the terrible consequences that you imply...].
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The consequences of your claims being followed by the readers here, are listed by me as death, life-ruing conditions and addictions. Your claims here are:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A.Drugs.com will say incorrectly that many combinations can cause serotonin syndrome
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B. Drugs.com says that the combination of mixing Mirtazapine with venlafaxine carries the risk of serotonin syndrome. *This is just erroneous.* (stars mine)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > C. Mirtazapine has been used to treat serotonin syndrome.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your claims here could be seen as being supportive because the rules by Mr. Hsuing is that if he does not intercede, what is posted is not against his rules. and that being supportive takes precedence. He later goes on to say that he could not intercede where there is a statement that is not supportive because in his thinking it will be good for this community as a whole to do so. This is what is at issue here that I think could cause the deaths of readers, induce a life-ruining condition or addiction and lead parents to drug their child in collaboration with a psychiatrist /doctor.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The rules here are for support and education. Since Mr. Hsiung has not interceded to your claims, the claims could be seen as supportive and educational, and readers could take your claims as facts. I dispute your claims as facts, in particular, but not limited to that you claim that Mirtazapine has been used to treat ss. I would like to see a citation that you use to make that claim so that readers could see for themselves what you are using to claim that Mirtazapine has been used to treat ss, because I do not want readers to be misled to think that because you claim that Mirtazapine has been used to treat ss, that there is a standard treatment for serotonin syndrome by using Mirtazapine which I think could mislead a subset of readers to think that if they do take a combination of drugs that could induce ss, they could be saved from death by going to an emergency room and all the doctors know to bring out a shot of mirtazapine and the sufferer is saved from death. I base that on that I think a subset of readers could be misled unless you post your citation is because there are readers that could think that your use of (has been used to treat ss) is not having a specification as to {how many} people were treated with Mirtazapine when they had ss and if the citation has that it is unreliable information or not. Readers could think that because you claim that Mirtazapine has been used to treat ss that taking Mirtazapine could not induce serotonin syndrome when it actually can, I can post citations to such for anyone requesting those here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And your claim that the site drugs.com could be incorrect in their list of adverse consequences of taking combinations of drugs, could lead readers to think IMHO to ignore their research because Mr. Hsiung has not interceded where you make that claim. Your claim of the site could be incorrect has the potential for readers to ignore their research and be killed by taking combinations of drugs that they list could cause ss and you say could be incorrect or erroneous. I think that Mr. Hsiung and any deputy of record has an obligation to intercede in claims like you make here in order that no reader takes your claim as fact and dies from your advise or gets a life-ruining condition or addiction. And if parents that are trying to make a more-informed decision as to drug their child or not in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor, I do not want them to be misled to think that taking the combination of drugs that could induce ss as stated in drugs.com could be considered by this site to be incorrect and go ahead and have their child take the combination of drugs that drugs.com says could cause death by serotonin syndrome and their child is killed by the drugs. The claim by Mr. Hsiung is that he does what in his thinking will be good for his community as a whole. But more than that, he says that readers are to try to trust him. That part about trusting him is what IMHO could lead readers to think that your claims here are facts because he has not intervened to say otherwise and he wants readers to try to trust him. Readers could think that Mr. Hsiung and any deputy or record are validating your claims because he has not interceded.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is written here,[...produce a citation which demonstrates this information to be accurate...]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The issue here is the drug called Mirtazapine. This drug is a knock-off of an illegal drug in the U.S. By itself, it has severe risks of life-ruining conditions and death. Combined with other psychotropic drugs could cause the risks to be increased exponentially.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a link to the FDA concerning Mirtazapine. Please read it. And if anyone tells you that the information here by the FDA is erroneous, or incorrect, ask yourself what their motive could be to sway you to think that the information is incorrect.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And to mothers reading here. You mothers that want to make a more-informed decision as to drug your child or not in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor could read here what you could think is supportive and factual because Me. Hsiung's TOS states that being supportive takes precedence. But be advised that maybe unbeknownst to you mothers, Mr. Hsiung has a hidden clause not posted in his TOS/FAQ that is self-made where he says that he does not have to abide by his own drafted rules if he thinks that by allowing what is unsupportive, it will be good for his community as a whole. Man greater than him in the historical record have used the same tactic to allow slavery, as they said that slavery will be good for the community as a whole. And the same tactic has been used to commit genocide and mass-murder, saying that mass-murder will be good for the community or country, as a whole. And schools have used segregation in the past by saying that segregation will be good for the school as a whole. And there are countries today that say that killing Jews will be good for their country as a whole. I say to you mothers to examine closely here what is being perpetrated as support and education. Be advised that I am prevented from offering here educational material that I think could save lives due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung. I do not consider education to be valid here because of the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung. When academic freedom is repressed, education could become just propaganda, which is fraudulent education.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now let us look at this drug, Mirtazapine by the FDA. You mothers, do you want your child to get Stevens -Johnson syndrome, or serotonin syndrome or other life-ruining diseases or death and a worse chance if combined with other psychotropic drugs?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You wrote,[...The psychiatrist that operates this forum imposes as a condition of participation that no-one infers from the posts published here that medical advise is being supplied...].
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I read Mr. Hsiung's TOS/FAQ, there is no condition imposed upon readers here for participation except that posters are to be civil at all times as a condition for participation. Mr. Hsiung states that being supportive takes precedence and that he does not wait to sanction uncivil statements because one match could start a forest fire, so if it is uncivil, don't post it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This could lead readers to think that what is posted without sanction is not against his rules and is supportive. Mr. Hsiung in a secret post of his, since it is not incorporated in his FAQ, reveals that he admits that there are unsanctioned posts to be seen as supportive and that he will not let readers know that he considers those statements to be un supportive because by allowing those statements to be seen as supportive, it will be in his thinking to be good for this community as a whole for readers to see un supportive statements to be considered to be supportive and will be good later on even if they put down or accuse or are insensitive or un supportive and that there could even be tragic consequences from those statements to be seen here as supportive. And his stated goals for the forum is for support and education and to try to trust him as well for what he does here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This can IMHHHO lead readers to think that medical advise is being supplied here when the advise is allowed to be seen as supportive and will be in Mr. Hsiung's thinking good for this community as a whole because he states to trust him here, and worse, he has posted prohibitions to me that prevent me from offering education and support here that could expose the propaganda used here that IMHHHHHHO could result in the deaths and/or harm to readers, in particular but not limited to Jewish readers here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just one example is the allowed statement here,[..No non-Christian will...], which is analogous to, [...No Jew will...], or [...No Islamic person will...], or worse, [...Only Christians will...], which insults all those that believe that they can enter heaven without being a member of Christiandom.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that is an example of what could be seen here as supportive and civil and will be good for this community as a whole according to Mr. Hsiung's thinking. So there could be a subset of readers here easily IMO persuaded to to think that is accepted advise from Mr. Hsiung and as an example of advocating to take drugs here, that could also IMHHHHHO be taken as medical advise from Mr. Hsiung because:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A. He sets himself up as an authority here to trust, as in his TOS/FAQ
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B. He has posted prohibitions to me that prevent me from posting what I need to in order to expose the anti-Semitic thought being allowed to be seen as supportive here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > C. He has posted prohibitions to me that prevent me from showing the history and development of drugs that I think could be educational and save lives here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D. Since there are such prohibitions to me here, then my perspective is excluded that could result in what is being promulgated here to constitute propaganda and not true education.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > E. I am prevented from posting here the historical relationship between psychiatry and mass-murder.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > F. Since anti-Semitic propaganda is allowed here to be seen as supportive and not against Mr. Hsiung's rules, this could cause readers to have hostile and disagreeable feelings and opinions about me as a Jew here, that could result in readers discarding what I write here, which could lead readers to accept what is posted here concerning drugs to be medically accepted advise.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you say that drugs.com says that taking tranylcypromine (Parnate) with Nortriptyline poses a major risk of serotonin syndrome which you say is inconsistent with a clinical assessment of the pharmacological mechanisms of each drug, and you want me to post here otherwise.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of the two drugs has the potential to cause serotonin syndrome by themselves and when taken in combination, that risk is exponentially increased. The tragic consequences here is that a subset of readers could rely on what you have posted and that what you are advocating could cause death to those relying on what you posted about the two drugs taken together.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a link that shows that both drugs can cause serotonin syndrome. I hope it is not too late for readers to see that they both can cause ss and I hope that no one has died from taking these two drugs together seeing here that what you posted could be considered to be supportive and will in Mr. Hsiung's thinking be good for this community as a whole.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/injuries_poisoning/heat_illness/serotonin_syndrome.html
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You wrote that I post {unfair imputations} concerning the owner/operator here, Robert Hsiung.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let there be no misunderstanding here. The owner-operator here openly states that he is not going to honor my notifications as he will to the other members here. This could be thought to be a discriminatory act on his part and is not in any doubt that he states his intentions here. His intentions are to have others shun me here and not respond to me by seeing that he does not respond to me as an example which is a powerful influence to children reading here. That policy of his could isolate me here which was a tactic of European fascism when Jews were ghettoized and this policy could be thought by a subset of readers to be an anti-Semitic policy for I am the only one that Mr. Hsiung states that he is not responding to me so that others could also not respond to me by his lead. As to if it is unfair for me to point this out, no one here is disputing the fact that it is what it is and Jews are being openly defamed here as being supportive and will be good for this community as a whole according to Mr. Hsiung's thinking and statements that accuse Jews are allowed to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And it is much more than that. For by Mr. Hsiung stating that he is not responding to me so that others could also not respond to me, that could stigmatize me and all Jews on the basis that he is a psychiatrist and is claiming that whatever he does here, including this encouragement for others to shun me here, will be good for this community as a whole. I say that those that understand the history of European fascism, that the historical record shows that to have been a false hope, that culminated in over 70 million deaths. And this false hope is still promulgated today by Jew-haters bent on killing Jews. And why would anyone want the statements that could lead readers to think that Jews are being defamed here that I am objecting to on the admin board in my discussion with Mr. Hsiung that are plainly visible, to be allowed to stand?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Psychologists have studied that question for decades and here is what I have found one of their answers to be. There are other answers and as time runs, as to which answer fits in here, time will be the judge. That answer in question is that those that want to foster hatred toward the Jews by using their authority to do so, hate the Jews and want others to follow their hatred {because they hate the God that the Jews give service and worship to and that gave life to all}. They hate the god in question because they hate life. They show their hatred of life and discriminate against Jews which has been ruled a crime against humanity itself, for it is against life itself.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a link that shows this and until Mr. Hsiung opens up the post and types right down in the post a refutation of what he posted, readers can see this as it is, and it is what it is.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let there be no misunderstanding here. This site can reach homes all over the world. When Mr. Hsiung allows posts here that constitute dehumanization of the Jews, it is a world-wide defamation, not just here on this site.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now here is a post that dehumanizes the Jews as is plainly visible. But what may be unbeknownst to you is that Mr. Hsiung did not abide by his own drafted rule to sanction the post. In fact, a sanction is not posted by him or any of his deputies of record even though he had in place a rule before the post was posted to not post to a link that has anti-Semitic content. The rule was even emphatic as he stated not to do so, period. That meant no exceptions. Then came:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let readers look at this before going on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if you have looked at the post, the dehumanizing accusations against the Jews that could foster anti-Semitic feelings here and to homes all over the world were allowed to be seen as being allowed to stand, being justified by the owner on the grounds that the hatred toward the Jews is in a link, even though the rule was in place that what is in a link is directly to the text and not immune from sanction just as if it is posted directly. He then says to the poster to post another link that omits the antisemitic hate that dehumanizes the Jews, without redacting what is in the link, nor posting his tagline to please be civil. This means that anti-Semitic propaganda could now be posted with impunity in a link as long as after posting the link, another link is posted omitting the anti-Semitism.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This altering of his own drafted rule is especially made here by the owner, and the owner wants readers to try to trust him for he is doing what in his thinking will be good for this community as a whole by making a venue for hate to be posted with impunity as long as another post has a link omitting the defamation against the Jews is posted by the poster while the original post remains un sanctioned. This allows continual anti-Semitic propaganda to be posted here without the poster being subjected to the TOS in relation to the enforcement section here. It is a special venue here by Mr. Hsiung for anti-Semitic hate only, for the rule to not post in a link what could be uncivil posted directly applied to posts that had links to uncivil content outside of anti-Semitic hate. In fact, the rule is so broad that I do not post links, but a way for you to see the link without me posting it by having you go to the search box and typing in key words that bring it up to you without it being seen on the board, for what is in the link can not be posted. But the anti-Semitism can be posted in a link. This can lead to thinking that there are two standards here that allow anitsemitic hate to be posted in a link, but anything else that could be uncivil to be not allowed. Just think about how this could dehumanize Jews here as a venue for posting hatred toward the Jews is devised here for members to be excepted from Mr. Hsiung's own drafted rules here. And then Mr. Hsiung could "miss" the link and it could stand forever as being civil and he makes another self-made rule that he says he can choose to not honor my notifications which if honord, would bring the post into light. What if the links had racist taunts in them? Could Mr. Hsiung allow that to be justified by the poster posting a different link omitting the racist taunts? What is the difference, if any?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In 428781, the dehumanizing of the Jews was initiated here to be allowed with the strategy that Mr. Hsiung implemented that could create and develop IMHO hatred toward the Jews here. The fact that Mr. Hsiung altered his own drafted rule to not post anti-Semitism in a link, period, leads one to form their own opinions as to what Mr. Hsiung's intent was in doing so. His intent is plainly stated as that he will be doing in his thinking what will be good for this community as a whole. And those Jews that suffer dehumanization from reading the anti-Semitic propaganda as seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, and those feelings of dehumanization carried into the child reading here to kill themselves, they can not speak here, their dreams have ended, I will speak for them.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RFobert,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let there be no misunderstanding here. When Jews are allowed to dehumanized here by the allowing of anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive where it is originally posted, then a subset of readers could think that Jews are inferior here as human beings to be seen as less than others here that have the protection of the rules, while the Jews do not have equal protection here from insults to their faith and Judaism is allowed to be defamed which could result in Jewish readers feeling put down and have feelings of unworthiness, as psychiatrists define such in depression.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In an instance here, the poster writes,[ admin, 1055904 ]. Let us look at that post before going on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if you have read that post, notice that what is purported, as can be seen as civil here, is the dehumanization of Jews. The statement by the poster is the foundation of dehumanizing anti-Semitism, and is allowed to be seen as supportive here. And worse, I am prevented from posting my repudiation to the statement due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung. And worse, the poster has impunity from the enforcement terms of service here and can continue to post even more of the same with impunity because Mr. Hsiung refuses to post his tagline to please be civil to the post where it is originally posted. This could give gratification to Jew-haters seeing that what is unsupportive that could lead a Jew to feel put down is considered to be civil here because it lacks sanction. and even worse, Mr. Hsiungg states that he can in a deliberate manner leave anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive, even though he admits that it is not supportive, because in his thinking:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [It will be good for this community as a whole to leave the anti-Semitic propaganda unsanctioned]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140902/msgs/1077202.html
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That could lead a Jewish reader to feel dehumanized here when they read it, for it can be deduced from what Mr. Hsiung has posted here that Jews do not get the equal protection of his rules, but worse, he can choose to go out of his own rules and allow dehumanizing statements against Jews to be seen as supportive here where they are originally posted.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tactic is not new, my friend. It is an old tactic that was eradicated many years ago and now it's ugly head is arising here to inflame hatred toward the Jews as that anti-Semitic hate is being allowed to be seen here as supportive, and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking it will be good for this community as a whole to allow it. That could summons Jew-haters to come out of their holes all over the world as them seeing that a psychiatrist is allowing anti-Semitic hate to be seen here as supportive and will be good for this community as a whole in his thinking. This could go to schools and universities and to terror groups giving them support for their hate thinking of Jews as non-humans, undeserving of the rights of other human beings. Children reading here could bully Jewish children in schools thinking that they have an ally of the psychiatrist and could even show their mothers the anti-Semitic hate being allowed to be seen as supportive here pointing out "I saw it on Dr.-Bob's as civil, because I saw where he says that if it is not sanctioned, it is supportive and that being supportive takes precedence."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dehumanization of Jews is nothing new, my friend. It is what can create and develop discrimination and lead to Jews being considered as inferior in a community so that those that even kill Jews can think in their sick minds that they are doing good, for they did not kill a human being in their sick minds.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let there be no misunderstanding here. The dehumanization of the Jews can be fostered by showing a design that over and over supports that Jews are inferior or have an inferior faith as in the posts here that I am objecting to being allowed to be seen as supportive where they are originally posted. And also since there could be up to 6 deputies that my notifications go to, they also have joined Mr. Hsiung in allowing those posts where they are in record to be seen as civil and worse, will be good for this community as a whole to be seen as supportive, for they could have sanctioned them by themselves as the FAQ states and they did not do so. And Mr. Hsiung says to consider that administrative action, or no action, to notifications comes from all of them. This could mean that there was a collaboration and intent to defame the Jewish people here by allowing anti-Semitic hate to be seen as supportive here. This is all under the umbrella of Mr. Hsiung's stated goals, to be supportive and educational and to use fairness and the Golden Rule in applying his rules here. But then he says that he could choose to not use the golden rule and to allow what is un supportive because in his thinking by doing so, it will be good for this community as a whole. That means that the anti-Semitic posts allowed to be seen as supportive, will in some way by him be good for this community as a whole. I am awaiting for him to post here what this good entails here. And if he ever posts that, then you can see my response to whatever he posts.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dehumanizing of the Jews here can be seen in the following post. In the last statement, it says to pray to Jesus , he is tour legal representative.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The foundation of dehumanizing the Jews is held up by pillars of hate. This is one such pillar as what it could purport is that to reach God in prayer, one has to pray to Jesus to do so, for He as the poster says, is our legal representative to God and pray to him. The implication is that Jew's prayers do not get to God because they do not pray to Jesus. This demeans Judaism as an inferior faith because as the statement implies, Judaism's members do not have their prayers heard by God.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am prohibited from posting a repudiation to that here due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung. So the statement becomes anti-Semitic propaganda here because it is not allowed, at least by me, to be repudiated. That tactic by Mr. Hsiung that prohibits the repudiation to be posted by me here, is not fair in the thinking of those that understand that fairness could mean to allow equal access here of different points of view, and my point of view form a Jewish perspective as revealed to me is not allowed to be posted here by Mr. Hsiung.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the post which I could post the URL to because unsanctioned posts can be posted here, but I like to use my mode of posting links. To see this post and look at the last sentence, go to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ faith, 820386 ]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert and friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pillars of hate that hold up the foundation of anti-Semitism as dehumanization of the Jews are many. One such pillar of hate is what is known as {replacement theology} or {supersessionism}. There are different types of replacement theology and one is called {punitive} replacement theology. This one is allowed to be seen here as civil and worse, will be in Mr. Hsiung's thinking to be good for this community as a whole to allow it to be seen as supportive and civil here. He does post openly what could be thought to be that he is doing this deliberately to me so that I could be used as a target of hate so he can see how others discuss it. I question as to if a psychiatrist could do this to me here without my permission according to the American Psychiatric Association or any other association that could have oversight for him doing this to me here. But what he is doing to me here is against all Jews, not just me as a Jew here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the posts allowed here that I am objecting to that Mr. Hsiung and up to 6 of his deputies are allowing to be seen as supportive and will not take remedial action to post a repudiation to the statements in the posts that accuse Jews of the killing called {deicide}. And worse, that all the Jews forever will be punished and their children for what they are accused of. This pillar of hate that holds up hatred toward the Jews as dehumanizing Jews is in more than one place here, standing as supportive against my years of objections. But before we see the horror of this all, I would like for you to do a search in Google for {replacement theology} in order to understand what this entails as how it dehumanizes Jews.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert and friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pillars of hate holding up the dehumanization of the Jews here as in the historical record that fosters anti-Semitism here by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record leaving anti-Semitic hate to be seen as supportive here, and worse that it will be in Mr. Hsiung's thinking to be goo for this community as a whole to do so, can be seen in the flowing post which is just one post of a pattern of hate being allowed to fester here against the Jews. This is all done against Mr. Hsiung's own rules that state not to post what could lead one to feel that their faith is being put down or accused. And here, an identifiable group is being allowed to be dehumanized by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record which is against all Jews, not just me as a Jew.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Hsiung attempts to justify the perversion of his own rules and the Golden Rule and what {being fair} means, by claiming that by him doing so that it will be good for this community as a whole in his thinking. This type of thinking is not new my friends, but an old way of thinking that history records graphically to (redacted by respondent).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This type of thinking says that {just wait and see} or {Ill prove to you later} or worse, {trust me}. Those of you that are waiting for this good to come here may not ever see any good from it. For Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record do not stipulate what this good to come will be. And even if this good undefined comes here, it will not erase the emotional infliction of distress that could have come to those Jews reading here that feel put down/accused as a Jew here seeing the anti-Semitism being allowed here to be seen as supportive. That good, whatever it is, will not erase the hate that comes from the flames of anti-Semitism here that can be carried to homes all over the world as that it can be seen that a psychiatrist is allowing anti-Semitic hate to be seen as supportive by him.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the one of many posts that accuse the Jews of deicide. The statement is in the last large paragraph that reads:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [...The idea that a person who offers salvation to his people and is despised and condemned and made to suffer a horrible death by them...]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is allowed to stand as civil here by Mr. Hsiung and up to 6 of his deputies. I can post links to posts here that are not sanctioned.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20101230/msgs/1002966.html
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The foundation of anti-Semitism is held up by pillars of hate that are lies against the Jews being supported here as being seen as supportive by the nature of that Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record have allowed the statements to be seen unsanctioned which has been posted here by Mr.Hsiung that if a statement stands, it is not against his rules.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another pillar of hate holding pf hatred toward the Jews here is the allowing to stand of the accusation toward the Jews of deicide. This was posted in a link to Matthew 27 in its entirety. This is being allowed to stand over my years of objections that went to Mr. Hsiung and all his deputies of record. You may wonder why not one of up to 6 deputies sanctioned the post, for any answer or no answer comes from all of them according to Mr. Hsiung and it is sure that they get notifications. You could think that they all discussed it and left it to stand for a purpose. I know of only one singular purpose for a group to do that, and if you know of another, please post it. The chapter 27 is used in the doctrine of replacement theology as the punitive type.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ admin, 678224 ]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the post that has the link that leads to the link that leads to Matt 27.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ faith,652741 ]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the pillars of hatred that holds up the foundation of anti-Semitism can be encouraged here by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record that I am trying to stop them here. This is because support takes precedence and what is not sanctioned is not against the rules as per Mr. Hsiung here. Replacement theology is one pillar of hate here being allowed that can ruin your life and keep those in a Troubled Sea from finding a way out of the mire and dirt that are cast about them that could drag them down to the depths of despair culminating in their deaths by the drugs being promoted here or their own hand.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a post where Mr. Hsiung promotes and encourages hatred toward the Jews as in replacement theology where he says it is good that a poster believes it. This could create and develop more hatred toward the Jews here as the forum goes on with more anti-Semitic hate being allowed to remain unsanctioned for readers to think that the hate is supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his team of deputies of record. His justification for allowing the hate is that in his thinking:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be good for this community as a whole for the hate to be seen as supportive.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us look at this now,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1068126.html
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The foundation of hatred toward the Jews is supported by the pillars of hate here as one pillar being the promotion of replacement theology. This promotion here by the owner and his deputies of record, and even by members being in concert with them, couls arouse such hatred toward the Jews that some readers here under the influence of mind-altering drugs being allowed to be promoted here that could induce a mind-set of violence and murder or suicide in the person taking the drugs being advocated here , to act out their violence against Jews as seeing that anti-Semitism is being supported here by the many pillars of hate holding up and supporting hatred toward the Jews as being allowed to be posted here with impunity. Mr. Hsiung's overriding justification for allowing this hate to be seen as civil by him is that it will in his thinking be good for this community as a whole to do so.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now let us look atr a different aspect of how this pillar of hate that supports anti-Semitism here is accomplished. This is by {indifference} to my requests to Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record. By being indifferent, the pillar supporting the hate stands cemented into the bedrock, for only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies can prevent forest fires here by sanctioning the hate. The embers from the flames of hate are carried by the internet to homes all over the world. Children can take the hate to schools, Jew-haters can take the hate to Kosher markets, Jewish centers, busses in Jerusalem, and other places to spew out their venom of hate that they could see as being supportive here and will in Mr. Hsiung's thinking be good for this community as a whole for it to be seen that way. I say not. I say stop it. I say that as long as these statement in question are allowed toi be seen as supportive, that this community is in the state of death and that IMHHHO being in that state can in no wise cast out depression and/or addiction that people come here to find a way out of.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us look at this pillar of hate that I have been trying to bring down to stop the support of hatred toward the Jews here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041218/msgs/431168.html
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert and friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another pillar of hate that supports anti-Semitism here as being supportive and will in Mr. Hsiung's thinking will be good for this community as a whole for anti-Semitism and hatred toward the Jews being allowed to be seen that way, is {stigmatization}. The stigmatization is put on me here as a Jew trying to stop Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record from advancing hatred toward the Jews by using this forum to indoctrinate readers to think that anti-Semitism is supportive and worse, will be good for this community as a whole by controlling the content here to persuade readers what is civil or not and what will be good for this community as a whole.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BY using stigmatization, Mr. Hsiung and his deputies and those members in concert with Mr. Hsiung that can be seen to be allowed to post defamation and anti-Semitism against me here with impunity, could have an easier time to influence readers to thinking that anti-Semitism will be good for this community as a whole as being seen to be supportive by them here. For the stigma put on me here could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable feelings and opinions of me here which could cause readers to shun me here and disregard what I write here. This IMHHHO could lead to deaths of readers and/or life-ruining conditions and addictions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us look at the following before going on and I would like for readers also to review [admin, 428781 ] along with this...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1054184.html
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert and friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along with stigmatization, there is discrimination which is an abuse of power and unjust. Without justice being equal, those that are victims of injustice can be stigmatized and dehumanized.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is this dehumanization here that could infect all members with the poison of hate that could cause their deaths and/or life-ruining conditions and addictions. For the hate is a mask that hides, transforming the hater into a pathology that I am trying to bring healing to those here so that they do not kill themselves or others, or get a life-ruining condition or addiction from the mind-altering chemical drugs being allowed to be advocated here, even to children, as "medicines".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us look at this before going on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140902/msgs/1074531.html
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us look at another pillar of hate that supports the foundation of hatred toward the Jews here being allowed to be seen as supportive and civil and will in Mr. Hsiung's thinking be good for this community as a whole to carry out what is purported.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This pillar holding up the foundation of anti-Semitic hate is called ,{anti-Judaism}. This is contempt for Judaism itself as to its foundation and meaning. This pillar allows the foundation of anti-Semitism to be promulgated if the foundation of Judiasm is deemed to be unsupportive and will be good for the community as a whole to be stigmatized as being uncivil. Here is just one aspect of how this is used here to persuade that it will be good for this community as a whole in Mr.Hsiug's thinking to eliminate a Jewish perspective here. This is nothing new, my friends, but an old type of thinking that has resulted in the murder of millions of Jews.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us look at;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [admin, 7968 ] being advised to see the 7968 in the colored strip URL, not in the subject line when you type it in the search box at the bottom of this page.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert and friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a link that shows how anti-Semitism is fostered and developed in a community. I would like for interested readers to include the following in your participation here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To see the list go to the bottom of this page and type in the search box:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ admin, 844756 ]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pillars that hold up the foundation of anti-Semitism here has in it's center the accusation toward the Jews of deicide. Here is a post that is promoted here as being supportive by the nature that Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record are allowing it to be seen as civil and that because of that being seen that way, it will be good in Mr. Hsiung's thinking for the community as a whole.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now let us look at this post.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ admin, 678224 ]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, I have returned to Matt 27 here that is being allowed to be seen as supportive here because it will be part of what will follow here from this that I think could save lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions. Because there is much more to this here and I would like for interested readers to review the posts with the moneychangers by doing a search here in order to understand what will follow.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pillars of hate that supports anti-Semitism here as being seen as supportive and will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking, and as well as those deputies that also allowed the statements against the Jews , which is anti-Semitism, to be allowed to be seen as supportive here, has in its components what is known as anti-Judaism. Anti-Judaism wants to stigmatize Judaism itself, as a faith to be expelled. The posts here being seen as supportive to expel me from this community if I was to post the foundation of Judaism here as revealed to me is nothing new, my friends. It is an old tactic that has resulted in the murder of millions of Jews as those that promulgated the policy said that it would be good for their community to expel the Jews.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is an article that shows some of the historical uses of expulsion of the Jews because they were Jews. I would like for you to read this in detail to see what the reasons were for the edict to expel the Jews was. Then I will show you the cyber mob mentality induced here that is allowed to be seen as civil by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record that created and developed anti-Semitic feelings emanating from here that could lead IMHHHHO to the deaths of some readers here as the hate could be absorbed inward as psychologists write about that could lead to suicide. You do not have to be a mastermind to foster hatred toward the Jews. Let us look at this document and try to see the parallels.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To see this document bring up Google and type in:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ sephardicstudies.org/decree ]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now let us look at this post that has to do with the cyber-mob mentality allowed to foment here against me that IMHO creates and develops anti-Judaism here as to be seen as civil and supportive because being supportive takes precedence according to Mr. Hsiung and readers could take him at his word. That could have horrible consequences toward the Jews as it is a powerful influence coming from a psychiatrist with up to 6 deputies to allow hatred toward the Jews to be seen here as being supportive and will be good in Mr. Hsiung's thinking for the community as a whole. The tactic of expulsion can come into the minds of readers from here which IMHHHHO could cause the suicide of some readers that I could show from psychologists that study this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To see this post go to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ admin, 676396 ]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The mob mentality being allowed to be seen as civil and supportive here could have fatal consequences to some readers. This is because readers could take Mr. Hsiung at his word to be civil at all times and that being supportive takes precedence by him. When some readers that are vulnerable to psychiatric suggestions here read this, they could incorporate the mentality as being good for this community as a whole according to Mr. Hsiung's thinking as to what stands is not against his rules here, what is good could be blurred to what is bad. In young people, this could cause suicide. I will show you later by psychologists how this thinking here could be infused into readers that take mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor to hate, which could be turned inward and induce suicidal and homicidal urges, even to commit mass-murder.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us look at ow being allowed here could induce such mentality. To see this post go to the search box here and type in:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [ admin, 1048571 ] and notice my response to the poster that is being allowed to post such here that could lead IMHHHHHHO to anti-Judaism and a mob mentality being fostered here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Another of the pillars of hate that support anti-Semitism here is {scapegoating}. This is nothing new, but an old tactic to stigmatize Jews as to say that the Jews or a Jew is the cause of someone's real or imagined ills. Here it is allowed to flourish as being allowed to be seen as supportive and civil and will in Mr. Hsiung's thinking be good for this community as a whole.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Let us look at this post.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140902/msgs/1075146.html
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > One of the pillars of hate that supports anti-Semitism is scapegoating. The scapegoating could be used to portray a Jew or Jews in a false accusation to decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which he/she or they are held or to induce hostile and disagreeable feelings or opinions of the Jew as the target. By this being allowed by Mr. Hsiung here, hatred toward me could be created and developed here. But it is much more than that, for if the hate via scapegoating is allowed to be seen as supportive, then members could emulate Mr. Hsiung and think that scapegoating is supportive if he does not post his tagline to {please be civil} to the statement that is used to portray me as a scapegoat for anyone's real or imagined ills. That then could be turned inward as psychologists write about and could cause tragic consequences to the membership here by the scapegoating being allowed to be seen as being good for the community as a whole if readers could see it as not against Mr. Hsiung's rules here.
> > > > > > > > > > > Let us look at the subject line in the following:
> > > > > > > > > > > [ admin, 1066804 ]
> > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > Now how can you escape so great a consequence that could come to you by seeing that scapegoating could be seen as supportive here by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record. you can be educated as the mission of the forum is for education. But when one is steered to a certain road to go down, and that road leads to death or a life-ruining condition or addiction or even the commission of mass-murder, then I think that one reading here could have their life saved by learning from me. Let us look at how scapegoating here could harm you by the nature that Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record could be seen as validating the hate by allowing it to be seen as supportive.
> > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > Let us start with:
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1046575.html
> > > > > > > > > > and then:
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20121018/msgs/1030117.html
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1046759.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > Another pillar of hate that supports the foundation of anti-Semitism is the allowing of with impunity third party members in a community to defame the Jewish person that is trying to stop the abuse of a government that allows anti-Semitic propaganda to be considered to be supportive and will be good for that community as a whole. This tactic is well-known in the historical record that has resulted in the murder of millions of Jewish children and millions of Jewish adults. The allowing of the defamation of a Jew or Jews by any community leader could induce a mind-set to community members that the defamation is state-sponsored as if the community leaders were doing the defamation themselves as allowing others to do so with impunity which could lead members to think that the leaders are validating or ratifying the hate.
> > > > > > > > > Let us look at one example here.
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1048705.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > The allowing of statements that could decrease the respect and regard and confidence in which I am held or that could induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings against me are of sucha deep nature here to be seen posted against me with impunity, that IMHO even the highly intelligent readers could be persuaded against me here, even though what I am posting here could free the minds of those enslaved by the drugs allowed to be promoted here as "medicines".
> > > > > > > > Let us look at this post.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130109/msgs/1043239.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > One of the pillars of hate that support anti-Semitism is what is known as anti-Judaism. This is when Judaism as a religion itself is being defamed. There are many variations used historically to do this to arouse antisemitic feelings. To be allowed to be seen as supportive here could IMHO induce a subset of Jewish readers in depression that read this here to feel put down as that they could feel that their faith is being put down and that Mr. Hsiung in his thinking is doing that so it will be good for his community as a whole. Let us look at the following example before I go on. The author does not post a reference to what he writes that Dinah here is commenting on, so it is her thinking from the passage that she posts, or she could be citing someone else's thinking, such as from the church she belongs to. Notice that she says here:
> > > > > > > [...people that overvalue money...(Jesus) was objecting to PEOPLE THAT USE RELIGION TO MAKE MONEY IN EXCESS...](caps mine).
> > > > > > > This is a theme that (redacted by respondent) use even today to claim Judaism was corrupt at the time of Jesus and evidence of the Jews unworthiness to retain God's love, which demeans both Jewish teachings, and ultimately Jews. And worse, that here it can be seen as supportive by a psychiatrist that says that he practices the Golden Rule, so a subset of readers could think that Judaism's covenant with the God that they cherish is no linger active and that Jews worship that God in vain because Judaism was corrupt according to the passage as Dinah sees in it not quoted which is commonly known as {the cleansing of the Temple}. That could really IMHO bring a Jewish reader down into a vortex of depression and kill themselves reading here that posters are not to post what could put down those of other faiths.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20101230/msgs/996909.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > The pillars of hate that support anti-Semitism can be seen here as being supportive in Mr. Hsiung's thinking and worse, by it being seen that way, it will be good for this community as a whole. Let us look further at Dinah's writing here against the Jews as what she posts here could arouse anti-Semitic feelings. She writes:
> > > > > > [...Jews who weren't being good Jews...Jews that weren't living up to their ideals of the Jewish faith...].
> > > > > > What you can not see is where Dinah got that. This is because the passage that she is using from the Christiandom Bible is not posted, but for her to post this, it could be thought that she read the passage in order to say such about the Jews here. There is much more to this...
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > Now let us look at the post that Dinah is referencing in her post here in question. Notice that the poster does not provide a link to the Christiandom Bible verse in question. This means that what Dinah posted could have been from what she read in the passage in the Christiandom Bible, or it could have come from a pamphlet or such distributed by her church that she belongs to, or something else which I do not know.
> > > > > But be it as it may be, she wrote what she wrote about the Jews here.
> > > > > Notice what the poster writes here about the people in the passage. Dinah identifies the people as Jews in her post here. To understand who the people were, they could be Jews or non-Jews, but even if they were non-Jews, the Jewish authorities were allowing what the passage states which Dinah says that those people were not being good Jews and such, which means the passage can be identifying the Jews as the subject people, or the Jewish Temple authorities. But to have a complete understanding of the passage in question, one would need to know a lot about second-Temple Judaism which I am prohibited to post about here due to Mr. Hsiung's prohibitions to me here.
> > > > > Let us look now at the original post in question and notice my questions that are still outstanding to the poster:
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20101230/msgs/996847.html
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > > Now let us look at the following
> > > > To see this, go to Goggle and type in:
> > > > [ Martin Luther, the Jews and their, Jewish virtual library ] usually first
> > > > Lou
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > One of the pillars of hate that support anti-Semitism is to demonize a Jew or Jews. This type of tactic to be allowed by whoever is in charge of a community/state/country/university/school/workplace ect has the potential to arouse violence and hatred toward a Jew or Jews as them being targets of the accusation od being evil as seen in the writing of the previous post here from the Jewish virtual library written in 1543 that was acted out in European fascism. It can be acted out today when a Jew or Jews are allowed to be seen as being demonized as being supportive by the leaders of a community which leads to what is known as {state-sponsored} anti-Semitism.
> > > Here is a link that has a way to see the demonization in question as being evil allowed to be seen as supportive here as being supportive takes precedence as it is written here by Mr. Hsiung.
> > > Lou
> > > To see this post go to the bottom of the page and type in the search box:
> > > [admin, 1020581 ]
> >
> > Friends,
> > To arouse anti-Semitic feelings in a community, the leaders could use tactics that are in the historical record going back centuries. One of those tactics is to allow with impunity the defamation of the Jew or Jews in the community, in particular to any Jew that is objecting to discrimination. By allowing with impunity a Jew or Jews to be called names, libeled and stigmatized, the flames of hatred toward the Jews can be spread like a forest fire.
> > Let us look at this post remembering what was written about the Jews in the 1500s and see the parallels. Here the poster calls me three things, all defaming, all against the rules here, but since it stands, readers that see Mr. Hsiung say that it is not against his rules if he does nothing about it, those readers can think that as being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and that it will be good for this community as a whole according to Mr. Hsiung's thinking. And worse, those that see his one post that he says he changes his mind and says that if a post is unsanctioned it could be against his rules but he could allow it anyway because by seeing the unsanctioned breach of the rules, that will be good in his thinking for the community as a whole.
> > Now I think that you are the right kind of readers, knowing that if someone says that they are going to allow defamation against a Jew to be seen as supportive and will be good for the community as a whole, then if the defamation was sanctioned, that could prevent the community from being good for the whole, or else the statement could be sanctioned. You see, then by allowing the defamation, it could be thought that sanctioning the post would be bad for the community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking. I hope all readers understand that concept. Let us look into the following.
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1063448.html
>
> Friends,
> The pillars of hate that support anti-Semitism and death have in them the pillar of defamation and the desire for death to come to a member or members. When this is allowed to be seen as supportive and civil and will be good for this community as a whole for that type of statement to be seen as such, I can smell the stench of the sickening hatred that this forum fosters that IMHHHO could result in deaths or addiction or life-ruining conditions as hate is convoluted and turned into support as the following has no tag line to be civil from Mr. Hsiung or any deputy of record where it is originally posted so that readers can see it as being supportive here. And worse, that it will in Mr. Hsiung's thinking be good for this community as a whole for it to be seen that way.
> Let there be no misunderstanding here. Defamation allowed here could cause the death of a subset of vulnerable people that are in depression that come here for support and see hate standing as supportive. And others could be murdered as a result of seeing that a psychiatrist with strict rules to not post anything that could lead one to feel put down or accused is allowing hatred to be posted without sanction where it is originally posted which could give a subset of readers a mind-set that a psychiatrist along with his deputies are validating the hate. That is a powerful influence that could create and develop hatred as acceptable to vulnerable impressionable young people that could act out the validation in the form of mass-murder or suicide as psychologists are writing about as you read this. There are people killing themselves after being ridiculed on sites like this where nothing is done about it. There is much more to this.
> But be it as it may be, here is a link to a post that is not sanctioned here and those posts un sanctioned can be posted here with the link to it. Read it carefully to see how defamation could be created and developed here as death is wished upon me by the poster as to what motivated the defamation against me. Since the motivation can be seen, what I am doing is trying to purge the anti-Semitic statements here and the poster wants me dead.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1052191.htmlFriends,
Another pillar of hate that supports the foundation of anti-Semitism is one that I can develop here with this to start. Look at the paragraph that starts with;
[...we are saved by...] and ends with, [...like they did in the old testament...]
Lou
This post to follow is seen as civil so a link can be posted to bring it to be seen. Later I will show you the historical hatred toward the Jews that has been constructed from the foundation seen in the post.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20072007/msgs/759797.html
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1077523
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150407/msgs/1078381.html