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Re: Dynamics of a Stressful Situation. » Chuckie

Posted by spoc on April 13, 2004, at 12:51:38

In reply to Dynamics of a Stressful Situation. » spoc, posted by Chuckie on April 13, 2004, at 11:10:26

> That's a good idea you got there, googling for screen names from the poppy forum. I think i actually met someone from there once, at another forum, and didn't think to ask him how to get in.
> > If i end up staying home i'm gonna need a LOT of support.>
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Obviously if it's a common or generic sounding name, best to put in specific forum names too, or for that matter could just do site searches. I tried Googling my name w/o 'Dr. Bob' included and it was an avalanche of unrelated stuff. I'm sure you do know of a lot of other specifically "substance use" related forums, no? Set good search keywords at them and you should net well-suited folks. Some of these other sites are scrambled as far as corraling the desired subject. You often can't tell from post titles if the person will even go down the road you're looking for. Here are a couple topic searches I saved from the other day, but like I said I couldn't tell at a glance if they were even worth it, although each thread supposedly contains my keywords related to detox/rehab and opiates. With certain forum formats like the first one, remember that once you open a whole thread's worth of posts at once you can use Edit --> Find from toolbar to look for specific words on individual pages, so you don't have to read 5,000 irrelevant posts:

http://www.bluelight.nu/vb/search.php?s=f25865f67f12fc1a02b13d33928d10c5&action=showresults&searchid=375953&sortby=&sortorder=

http://www.bluelight.nu/vb/search.php?s=f25865f67f12fc1a02b13d33928d10c5&action=showresults&searchid=375972&sortby=&sortorder=

http://www.drugabuse.com/boards/quickview.shtml?2x0

(Don't recall if there was a forum at this one, maybe if not there'll be a "Resources" area that will...)
www.atwatchdog.org

But I just don't know if it's good or not to play at forums where you know there also plenty of pages in SUPPORT of continuing to use; no matter what a person's current state is! That's why I think it would be best to identify posters from the poppy site page I sent or others, who sound positive and committed to what they've done and what you want to do; and then get the heck out of dodge and just email with them!

Elsewhere you mentioned methadone as possibly trading one addiction for another, but that at least it was more mainstream. I did see a poster at the poppies forum commenting that many/most who go that route do end up w/ such an addiction, but have no clue as to whether that's still better and a step on the overall road. And I don't know if buprenorphine is any better, or is something given to someone who's had an opiate addiction, beyond for step-down detox. But whether for detox or longer term AD treatment (if it can be done in a case like yours), again I wonder if you saw this buprenorphine doc locator link that was on the forum page I sent the other day (but for your own good maybe you should give Wellbutrin a chance, it's helping you lots so far and you've probably never had a big cocktail experiment to arrive at a combo that would still -- no matter what -- be better than tea for depression):

http://buprenorphine.samhsa.gov/bwns/
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> Thanks for letting me talk, and no pls don't shut up i need people to talk to me. Thanks, really. >
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Are you also posting anywhere else? Get to it pal!! ;- ) I also think you should post again at PB Sub Use, in caps if necessary, stating that you're in need!!! I did read your attempt there and nothing about the title screams "help!" Try, try again -- I can't believe it wouldn't be more helpful this time. Entitle it something like "W/D; TALK TO ME PLEASE NOW AND OFTEN!"

Hope your appointment went well. Please be careful about your admitted propensity to be "paranoid." Visualize the little angel and devil from the movies sitting on your respective shoulders when you enter high stress conversations about how to quit, or make any related decisions. Learn to hate and want to wrest control from the little devil, if he is the one urging you to discount or suspect what is being said to you! He may try to keep you from helping yourself, so GET MAD at the little f...... Never mind, you get the idea! It sounds cliche, but I've found that while 99.5% of such platitude suggestions that people give me make me roll my eyes, for some reason certain visualizations or mantras do take naturally and speak to me. Like the one above, and also "This too shall pass." Only in your case you still need to actively assist in getting it to start passing!
;- )


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