Posted by JLx on September 14, 2005, at 19:50:16
In reply to For those who feel MORE depressed w. magnesium..., posted by Mistermindmasta on September 11, 2005, at 23:34:22
My not very scientific understanding is that if you're deficient in magnesium but getting a lot of calcium, you may not even be getting the benefit of the calcium you're taking/eating because it needs magnesium to work properly. Perhaps a sudden surge in magnesium then may actually increase calcium?
I started taking magnesium two years ago because of what I read on George Eby's website: *Rapid Recovery From Depression Using Magnesium Treatment* http://www.coldcure.com/html/dep.html He said to decrease/eliminate calcium when supplementing magnesium for depression so I basically cut it out of my diet altogether for a month or two. I had a dramatic improvement in mood, not in weeks as I expected, but within ONE day. I felt so good I quit my meds (Zoloft,Provigil) cold turkey that day and haven't taken any since. I felt a little shaky for a day but then was ok. (I know this is not recommended but I never had any prob quitting any med and they definitely felt like poison at that point and didn't work besides.)
It was many months before I felt like that previous calcium overload/magnesium deficient imbalance was righted. And during that time, taking magnesium glycinate primarily, it was not sedating to me. Now, it is, so I have to take it at night.
I would suggest that anyone not experiencing any benefit from magnesium, decreasing or eliminating calcium from the diet for a week or month, to see if that made any difference. This may be more relevant to women as we're often following that anti-osteoporosis advice to get huge amounts of calcium in our diets or by supplementation.
My other suggestion would be for people to experiment with other kinds of magnesium, such as magnesium malate which feels much less sedating to me. And fiddle with the dose, either up or down.
Otherwise I think we can assume that people are just different in how they react to it. My sister, who is not a depressive type, finds magnesium glycinate stimulating. She can't even take an Epsom salt bath without it keeping her from sleeping afterwards.
>Has anyone had the experience of magnesium kind of spacing them out at first but then have a mood leveling effect after a few more days?
Keep us posted with your own experience.
> It just seems so contradictory that magnesium causes depression and I really want to try to explain it away... there's just too much good evidence going for magnesium for me to think that its really not worth using.
I agree, especially as there are other benefits to the body such as helping prevent diabetes and heart disease.
Magnesium for me is DIRECTLY related to suicidal ideation and feelings too. Since I started taking it I don't experience that special circle of hell.
> I just started using Magnesium and I feel kind of out of it... like slow thinking, when I take too much (approx 400mg) at one time. I'm hoping this foggy feeling will go away or turn into a nicer feeling. What do you think? It definitely has acute anxiety reducing properties, just FYI... I definitely recommend it for that.
What kind of mg does this and have you tried any other?
JL
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