Posted by LOOPS on February 15, 2006, at 19:30:12
In reply to Re: HELP!! MAGNESIUM REVERSE EFFECTS » LOOPS, posted by blueberry on February 15, 2006, at 18:09:00
Hi blueberry -
interesting - I could never tolerate N-acetyl-tyrosine and have never tried the 'normal' l-tyrosine. However I have a 'mental edge' formula which can be very useful as it contains tyrosine, but can certainly make me on edge mentally (ha ha)if I take too much or don't balance it with 5htp/tryptophan. Dopamine precursors generally make me irritable. Fish oil seems to raise dopamine for me, but not excessively.
I was interested to read your experiences with 5htp/tryptophan. I had a great run with tryptophan once, but ended up taking too much and getting some scary symptoms (sweating, shaking) - I wasn't even taking that much really. 5htp is by no means a wonder pill for me, but it has been a mainstay over quite a few years. It does seem to help with anxiety and sleep, but sometimes I worry about it screwing up my sleep even more, as I get early awakening with it. I would no way take even half a sleeping tablet without backing it up with something like 5htp and some B6 - I'd be awake after about 4 hours.
The zopiclone I noticed the very first night I took it I was monged and depressed the next day. Ironically it does really help with sleep, but I've NEVER had weirdo psycho effects lasting into the next day with either zolpidem or even midazolam (mega benzo).
Anyway I really try to not take any med for sleep, but recently I get to about 2am and if I feel I'm really not going to sleep I take half a tablet. The back-up 5htp/cal/mag usually extends whatever sleep the pill initiates.
I noticed you had a trial with Mg - have you taken it up again? That was why I was taking the taurine in addition to anti-anxiety/mood - to balance out the glycine in the Mg glycinate I take at night.
After all my experiences, I still wouldn't ditch the Mg/Ca/taurine - I think something else made me freak out. Still, don't want to be back there anytime soon - I can be a delicate emotional mess at the drop of a hat.
Loops
Tryptophan always made me HUNGRY, but it felt more natural than 5htp. I wonder for me, if 5htp increases serotonin in too many parts of the brain i.e. sometimes it makes me depressed whereas tryptophan never did - I'm pretty sure my brain just used what it need from the tryptophan, but the 5htp tends to have a 'blanket' effect and the brain can't control what it takes. Dunno.
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