Posted by Lamdage22 on December 14, 2018, at 8:36:27
In reply to Re: To christempowered, posted by Christ_empowered on December 14, 2018, at 5:13:40
NAC makes me better for 2 days then worse depression wise. Alpha lipoic acid made me psychotic to some degree. ALA makes me almost psychotic
> hi...
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> some people go thru detox stuff with orthomolecular. i kinda sorta did, except...the first 6 months of my Orthomolecular, I deliberately went for detox by adding in bunches of things (alpha lipoic acid, for instance...and NAC...), so my case is a bit different. After 6 months, I switched over to a more standard Orthomolecular protocol, and its been OK.
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> you really should match up C with B3. I go way above, personally...right now, I'm only @ 12 grams time release C, down from 20. I think...my tolerance for C is now a lot lower, so maybe all this detoxing and such did something? The vitamin C people say that when one's tolerance for daily C goes down, it means you've been made healthier. something like that, anyway.
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> I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but...usually, its like this: for standard Orthomolecular, you need high potency b-complex. b-50 2, 3 x daily...or, if you're me, 2 b-100 tablets in the AM (they're time release). You also need the C, natural form E or dry E (I go for natural form), a good multi, D3, some form EPA+DHA (Hoffer was all about salmon oil, if I recall correctly...), and then...
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> add ons, as you deem fit. My protocol is pretty bare bones now, but for a while it was crazy insane...green tea extract, grape seed extract, astaxanthin, lycopene...
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> it just got to be a bit much, plus...honestly, its a lot cheaper and easier to ramp up on the C and other vitamins that are also antioxidants than it is to keep adding in other antioxidants, plus...the vitamins don't seem to mess w/ tranquilizer blood levels as much (so far, so good, for me...).
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> now...additional add ons that are more in line w/ the Orthomolecular philosophy and that have helped me would include the various minerals nobody seems to get enough of in the diet. selenium, zinc, etc. multi-mineral supplements can come in handy, and there are also trace mineral supplements available.
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> I've become a whole lot healthier and more lucid on the vitamins...but its taken time. Now, my new psych person is choosing to call my problems "Bipolar I," and she's even saying we can see about a slow and steady taper off the tranquilizer, provided I stay on Lamictal. Before...I was a hot mess, as in...state hospital level hot mess.
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> some people use no flush niacin, which I think is niacin hexa-nicotinate. I briefly tried it, it was OK, but...opinions in the "alternative" world vary, so I went back to niacinamide.
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> and then there's real, bona fide niacin...that's the gold standard in Hoffer's treatment protocols, I just don't mess with it.
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> hope this helps.
Seroquel 900mg :(
Zyprexa 25mg :(
Trazodone 100mg
Venlafaxine 37.5mg
Metformin 2000mg
Lithium 250mg
5000 IU Vitamin D3
Blueberries!!!
Orthomolecular
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