Posted by Larry Hoover on June 2, 2003, at 10:42:46
In reply to Re: Found Psychological Babble - p.s. memory » Larry Hoover, posted by Squiggles on June 2, 2003, at 9:45:55
> Larry,
>
> The fact that you have succeed with CBT, means
> that you were able to. I don't know what kind
> of trauma you have suffered - whether one or many,
> but you are one of the people who have been able
> to turn cognitive states around.
>
> You must understand, that not all people have
> the same ability.It's a matter of training and support, not ability.
>Take a look at some of the
> War vets - they never get over what they went
> through - they need drugs, they need assistance
> outside of their own resources. That's because
> some people don't have the emotional or mental
> resources - they may be burned out.That's not the reason at all. I have corresponded with many vets. They weren't provided with the supports required to foster success. For twenty years, the only support offered many Vietnam vets was drugs, if they could even get that. They came home to a society that vilified them. One component of CBT is the empathetic attention provided by the therapist. There is no substitute for that.
The lawsuit just launched against the Canadian Armed Forces with respect to PTSD arises from the institutional trivialization of the affected parties, and the absence of therapy. The problem isn't the veterans.> As for control, again, take a look at domestic
> incidents of violence and abuse (no, i am not
> putting myself here). These women need to be
> removed from abusive situations and the law is
> what will help in these circumstances, not CBT.That is so simplistic a viewpoint. Get them out of there, and all will be well? The threat of imminent harm must certainly be addressed, but what has that got to do with the aftermath?
> So, basically everyone is different with different
> strengths and weaknesses. In the worst cases,
> i do believe that drugs, and removal of the
> hurtful stimulus help the most.In the acute phase, it's a start.
> I think that
> CBT is a long-term, analytic, and didactic solution
> to something that has already faded in memory.
>
> SquigglesIf it has faded in memory, there's nothing to treat.
You have done no more than create a circular argument. Petitio principii, writ large.
Lar
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