Posted by firenrain on May 13, 2004, at 17:31:33
In reply to I agree... Absolutes......are'nt! » Racer, posted by 64bowtie on May 10, 2004, at 14:08:07
> Question: why do folks worship the absoluteness of God without worshipping God? Absolutes can be an abstraction. Worshipping the absoluteness without worshipping the object is carrying the abstraction of the absolute to the worthless level. Yet, aren't Nations and religions "controlling" citizens and believers by implied disaster of not honoring the absolute?
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> Yep! I agree! Absolutes are an abstraction, and yep, are'nt.....tangible!
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> RodQUESTION... SOMETHING TO PONDER please take a moment to think about where I am coming from. A persons first experience with "God" is their primary care taker (that IS the master of their universe) so one can learn that their "God" will (1)fulfill their needs, lovingly set limits so to keep them safe, and trust that they will always be loved. Or (2) one can learn that their needs aren't important,that you mustn't do this or that because pain in one form or another will be inflicted, and they can come to believe that they are unworthy of love, and that love must be earned. Answer...How does one believe in the absolutes of god...(their are absolutes in this area all around, government for one) You must live this or that way or there will be HELL, FIRE and DAMNATION to pay. Lesson learned by child #2 (hardwire if you'd like). Worshiping, implies adornment, love, faith, trust. Faith and trust is a far reach for (the now adult) child #2. That is not to say one cannot change this belief system. However please do not try to tell me that something this complex (most people have no idea that this is the cause of their lack of faith, and once again believe it's simply another deficiency in their character) can be resolved in any 10 day course. If that were true couldn't we just post billboards and put an end to the suffering and dysfunction? This is extremely complex and I think to over simplify how and why we are would be way off base. The belief of the absoluteness of god in this text is fear and shame based so, yes this would etify no one thus reducing it to worthlessness. The worship of God is grace and love based, a completely different concept (in my mind at least).Does this make any sence to anyone else?
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