Posted by alexandra_k on January 5, 2006, at 23:56:49
In reply to Re: The social construction of (some) mental illness » alexandra_k, posted by James K on January 5, 2006, at 21:44:01
i haven't encountered 'multiple personality syndrome' (as opposed to 'multiple personality disorder' or 'dissociative identity disorder') before...
i guess... i put that down to him being a biologist (well... philosophy of biology) really...
> ---I wonder if there is any difference between the early "classic" mps or mpd (is there a difference) where a person had two or more distinct personalities that may or not be aware of each other (a very rare and severe condition), and this more society and therapist induced diagnosis? I am not a student so my knowledge is limited and varied.
ah. no... i think they are supposed to be the same thing... though of course you can get the odd case of something... and i suppose you do get the odd case and then the theory is developed in order to explain the case... but then in virtue of the theory (the thought is)... you end up with an epidemic of cases...
> ---The idea of an societal expectation induced psychosis fascinates me.not sure if this is related...
there was something about the content of deluisons having a cultural component too...
so... people who were raised christian are more likely to have delusions with christian religious themes...> ---I'm going to have to think about how this may relate to another concept that I've bought into involving a kind of death before dishonour attitude that leads to violence or murder over trivial or misunderstood slights.
hmm.
> The general acceptance of Hacking’s analysis of multiple personality syndrome would have a corrosive effect on the social practices of the modern MPS community.> ---I'm now in way over my head, but mightn't what I might refer to as "classic mps" be of the second, and the common 1990's version be of the third?
yes... i think i get what you are saying...
i think... they are supposed to be the same thing though...and...
i'm wondering about something he goes on to say a little later...
ideas i have heard before...
where did all the hysterics go????
(people with psychosomatic paralysis)
you don't see many nowdays
(nowdays when it is fairly easy to detect as psychosomatic and patients tend to get a fairly unsympathetic response)
whereas when freud and co were all interested...
lotsa cases...one thought is that...
it evolved into mpd.
interesting...
but what i'm wondering...
is whether there is a bunch of people...
with similar personality (dunno what ya call it, hysterical, borderline, histeroid, dissociative, whatever...) where the SYMPTOMS may manifest differently as a function of culture but where...there is an underlying similarity that does not vary as a function of culture...
dunno.
> ---the fascinating part to me has to do with the concept of "reality of behavior including mental illness to the point of psychosis being capable of being produced by society's subconcious belief systems."hmm. i'm not sure what that is about... i'm not sure what you mean by 'societies subconscious belief systems'.
> ---It is putting me in a frame of mind of Philip K. Dick's more advanced fiction. The second time I've thought of him this week on this board.
i haven't read that...
> This is too hard for my underexercised brain,
its a bit too hard for mine too right now :-(
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