Posted by craig allen on December 19, 2003, at 16:33:33
In reply to Re: Dr Bob should rename this the opiate forum!, posted by bsj on December 7, 2003, at 22:23:05
> "knowing this,,
> why then do you say a fine line?..
> to me its a clear difference..
> yourself expresssed it.."
>
> The comparison I made wasn't between those like me and those just looking for kicks on opiates; I compared myself to those who become heroin, etc. addicts because of brain chemistry defects. They're doing the same thing I'm doing, but without the benefit of knowing the dangers of the drugs; and they unwittingly descend into massive dose escalation and deep physical dependence. The key, really, isn't willpower; it's knowledge of and respect for the drugs. If I didn't take holidays, I know without a doubt that the effects I get from 10mg of hydrocodone wouldn't last long; I'd soon need 20mg, 50mg, 100mg to get the same effect. I've talked to people who need 200mg of hydro just to feel any effect whatsoever; and of course they've been scarfing the pills everyday for a year or more.i haven't taken opiates for several years. during that time, i've tried too many anti-depressants to list - mood stabilizers, anti psychotics and benzos too. nothing has been significantly helpful. recently, i tried to find a doctor who would prescribe buprenorphine for me (as an anti-depressant) but i was not successful. opiates are the only thing that have ever helped my mood, but, like many, i've never been able to beat the whole tolerance/withdrawal game. when i use opiates, things ultimately get worse. recently i ordered up some ultram and i'm expecting it to arrive any day now. assuming that the ultram works for me (i've never taken it), i want to be able to get the anti-depressant benefits from it consistently. i think your method of "opiate holidays" is the only way i'm going to be able to do this. please let me know how often you take these holidays and how long you abstain for. any other tips would be greatly appreciated. thanks.
poster:craig allen
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