Posted by Dr. Bob on February 18, 2004, at 17:48:40
In reply to AA and meds « Dalilah, posted by Dr. Bob on February 11, 2004, at 8:04:13
I did not mean to post that message.
Posted by alathea on February 16, 2004, at 19:28:09
In reply to Re: Lamictal side effects - URGENT, posted by alathea on February 16, 2004, at 19:13:32
I don't understand how to use this. I'm posting things all over the place. And I don't know where they are. Dr, Bob must hate me. That would fit right in with my paranoia. Ha!
I am never going to get all this work done.You have to excuse me. I was a drunk (three years ago) and now they've got me on these legal drugs....and I'm supposed to be writing a paper about it!!!! More coffee! I've really enjoyed reading your posts, but I'm still convinced that it's my meds that are making me crazy, although there was a moment yesterday when I thought it was the sugarfree gummybears. Arrggh! Back to work!
AA is just the first place I went where there were really a lot of people just as effed up as I was. And we all did behavioral therapy together. I just wish they would quit telling me that my life is going down the drain since I'm not going to meetings anymore--apparently I'm in DENIAL, but it's quite nice thank you. See, that's the dogma part. I have no desire to drink and a million reasons not to. So there.--
Re: I did not mean to post that message.
Posted by contemplative1 on February 16, 2004, at 19:43:02
In reply to I did not mean to post that message., posted by alathea on February 16, 2004, at 19:28:09
Unfortunately, many long time AA people who attend meetings regularly cannot understand how people can stay sober without going to meetings. They tend to preach this as their mantra.
However, the truth is that most people who go to meetings regularly stay sober and those who do not - do not. The odds are better if one attends meetings as often as possible within reason.
Every time I have slowed up on going to meetings, I have either relapsed or come damn close before I got my feet back in the doors. It is the nature of the disease to tell us that we do not need to go to meetings, that we are cured, that we are not like all those culty AA's who are lost without AA.
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Re: I did not mean to post that message. » contemplative1
Posted by silmarilone on February 16, 2004, at 20:10:04
In reply to Re: I did not mean to post that message., posted by contemplative1 on February 16, 2004, at 19:43:02
That's interesting, because I have heard it said a lot that it's not the meetings that keep you sober, it's the steps. I think if you relapse everytime you stop going to a lot of meetings, you arent really getting better, just dependent on meetings.
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> However, the truth is that most people who go to meetings regularly stay sober and those who do not - do not. The odds are better if one attends meetings as often as possible within reason.
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Re: I did not mean to post that message.
Posted by contemplative1 on February 16, 2004, at 20:25:56
In reply to Re: I did not mean to post that message. » contemplative1, posted by silmarilone on February 16, 2004, at 20:10:04
Different people place higher importance on different aspects of the AA package. People who do not do the steps are probably more likely to go out than people who do, although one theory is that many go out when they are faced with steps 8 and 9- amends - out of fear of facing those they have harmed.
One of the AA guru's in LA, where I live, avers that going to meetings and staying sober for the first year is the most important thing. The steps can wait until 6-12 months into sobriety to be most effective. It is like that saying that youth is wasted on the young.
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AA, Tegretol, and stuff. » alathea
Posted by KimberlyDi on February 17, 2004, at 12:41:06
In reply to I did not mean to post that message., posted by alathea on February 16, 2004, at 19:28:09
Whatever works for you, don't worry about the rest.
AA works best with attendence by the people with continued sobriety there to offer hope to those with brand new sobriety. Vice versa, the ones with brand new sobriety coming off the street with pain rolling off in waves also reminds the oldies how awful it is out there, and how close everyone is to that one first drink. "There, but for the grace of God, go I." I'm sure you know that. Now, my selfish (maybe) approach is that guilt for not attending is a negative emotion that will only drag you down in your battle against alcohol. Can't afford that. If what you are doing works for you, more power to ya! AA is only a resource.
So you get to write about how legal drugs are good for you while self-medicating with alcohol isn't? I saw you post that you are taking Tegretol? How does that work for you? I take the generic equiv and I don't like how it makes me feel physically. I'm queasy and my hands buzz like they did coming off of Effexor. On the other hand, I'm not getting into verbal fights at work or having to leave early because I'm crying anymore. I wish Topamax had a generic so I would at least be loosing weight inexpensively while feeling this way. I was rapid cycling previously, and recognizing it for the first time. Or I self-induced symptoms because I read about it here. You aren't the only one feeling like your effed up. Dr Bob doesn't have time to hate all of us. (I feel that way sometimes too)
I know you were talking to someone else, but I replied to your reply anyways. Hope you don't mind.
KDi in TX
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