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Posted by gardenergirl on March 9, 2004, at 23:31:13
In reply to Re: Awww, Fallen and Apperceptor..forgiveness is cool! » gardenergirl, posted by Fallen4myT on March 9, 2004, at 23:23:50
As a professor I had long ago would say, "who would'a thunk it?"
It's really impressive, and I agree, speaks well for all babblers, but you in particular, that he is still posting and taking an active role.
Now, what are YOU wearing next time? I see my T on days that I also see clients, so I have to dress professionally. If I am off, I usually wear jeans, as I NEVER get the chance to wear them anymore, it seems.
gg
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 9, 2004, at 23:39:29
In reply to Re: Awww, Fallen and Apperceptor..forgiveness is cool! » Fallen4myT, posted by gardenergirl on March 9, 2004, at 23:31:13
Lol I know "who would'a thunk it?" lol way lol....and thank you. Oh my you have to dress all professional so not fun but you can hike that skirt up when you sit and open a few bottons lol hahahaha and hope you arent graded on this :p
Wow...what will I wear...some days I set 3 outfits out and then pick one when I get up. But I am thinking my new long black skirt is all Stevie Nicks shaggy on the bottom and long suede boots I have with heels...the top you'll have to stay tuned for lol cause that I dont know...maybe a gauze one I have black with bell like sleeves and some embroidery on its sleeves and by the scoop neck...reds and a pretty blue..I thought of that when Typing to P on my skirts lol
Posted by antigua on March 9, 2004, at 23:55:39
In reply to Re: the couch.. » antigua, posted by Fallen4myT on March 9, 2004, at 23:18:30
My wardrobe isn't anywhere near as exciting. My T is a woman and the best days are when I walk in and she is wearing an outfit similar to mine --same color combo, for example. My T is a great dresser and must spend a ton of money on clothes because I can barely remember seeing her in anything more than twice, and I've been seeing her forever!!
I dress for how I feel and she picks up on it right away and comments.
You guys have way more fun, but thanks for including me.
antigua
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 0:05:22
In reply to Re: the couch.., posted by antigua on March 9, 2004, at 23:55:39
Well I do have fun and spend way too much cash on clothes (sometimes I pay for it with hubbys yelling at me lol) too I never wear the same outfit to T's and have seen him 3 years now :) You can have fun by trying to guess what color shes gonna wear and wear it and see if you kinda ESPed it out. I do not own jeans. I am odd all in all lol but basically nice and harmless :p just loopy ..So what do you think she will wear next session color wise...And mess with her head too maybe dress opposite of how you feel....hehe..I do NOT always feel happy going in but MUST lookl good
Posted by Pfinstegg on March 10, 2004, at 1:23:38
In reply to Re: the couch.. » Pfinstegg, posted by Fallen4myT on March 9, 2004, at 23:01:30
My T has gone to New Orleans for Mardi Gras (now what's he going to do- dance in the streets all night in a wolf costume, and make fantastic love all day?)Fashionwise, I am taking lessons from Fallen. I thought I was going to get very brave this summer in my new pink dress and sandals with heels, but she has upped the requirements for me, so now I need a pink garter belt which will SHOW slightly! I don't think she fully realizes just how challenging that last fine point will be on the couch..Still, she is definitely showing me the way into a sexier future, and I'm doing my best to follow her. I think she's really got that part down, and best of all, she dares to do it! I can talk the part pretty well, but am not nearly as good at looking it. (yet).
My clothing reality is quite a bit less exciting than hers. I usually go to the T.twice a week, but just wear different jackets (blue, purple, sage, tan and strawberry are the colors I have at present, slim black pants, necklaces, Ferragamo flats and modest make-up. You have to keep in mind that I still flail around quite a bit on the couch and don't always notice whether my knees are *up* or not. If there is eye make-up, it tends to end up on the paper towel which covers the head pillow, so conservative is best there for the time being.But Fallen has gotten me all excited about future possibilities, so just give me time!
Posted by tinydancer on March 10, 2004, at 2:06:47
In reply to Re: the couch.. » Fallen4myT, posted by Pfinstegg on March 9, 2004, at 18:11:48
YES! I agree. I go in to every appointment working it for all I've got and hell, he probably knows it. I don't care. I want to look my best, sexiest, prettiest self, yes I do. Nothing wrong with that.
By the ways your outfit descriptions are too good. I love this! I want more descriptions....haha
> Good outfit! To get a bit more serious for a moment, don't you think we all have these feelings for a good reason? We just want to be our best, sexiest and prettiest selves- in life, and in with the Ts, who get so important and stand in for everyone else. I don't think we have to verbalize everything, either. Just having the feelings is wonderful (and helpful) even if we don't say a word. They know we are having them- and of course, we know it. It gives me a lot more self-confidence, bringing it all in. It all gets accepted in such a natural way, without any big deal being made of it, and, in the process, I get more self-accepting, too. It's as important as all the complex problems I have had with my parents, for example, but no more so. It actually makes getting up, making eye contact and walking out easier than when I try to hide it- or anything else. Well, not every time...but mostly.
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> I don't know if I can manage a garter belt (well,I have to be honest:I CAN'T!), but I'll be all eyes if you do! It's so much fun to fantasize and be light-hearted about THERAPY CLOTHING. Where else could we ever talk to our hearts' content about such a topic?
Posted by tinydancer on March 10, 2004, at 2:12:18
In reply to Re: the couch.. » antigua, posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 0:05:22
Yeah I just went on a 200$ shopping spree. I like jeans as long as they are tight and VERY low cut...(evil laugh)
> Well I do have fun and spend way too much cash on clothes (sometimes I pay for it with hubbys yelling at me lol) too I never wear the same outfit to T's and have seen him 3 years now :) You can have fun by trying to guess what color shes gonna wear and wear it and see if you kinda ESPed it out. I do not own jeans. I am odd all in all lol but basically nice and harmless :p just loopy ..So what do you think she will wear next session color wise...And mess with her head too maybe dress opposite of how you feel....hehe..I do NOT always feel happy going in but MUST lookl good
Posted by CareBear04 on March 10, 2004, at 12:41:03
In reply to Re: the couch.., posted by antigua on March 9, 2004, at 23:55:39
How does it make you feel when your T comments on your clothes? (I know it sounds like a ? you'd hear in therapy.) I used to think that Ts weren't supposed to notice or at least comment on anything physical, including wardrobe choices. Then I had a woman T who would occasionally make nice remarks about a sweater or a necklace or something, and I thought it was nice. Since none of my previous Ts had ever gone near commenting on my appearance, I wondered whether it was weird or not.
> My wardrobe isn't anywhere near as exciting. My T is a woman and the best days are when I walk in and she is wearing an outfit similar to mine --same color combo, for example. My T is a great dresser and must spend a ton of money on clothes because I can barely remember seeing her in anything more than twice, and I've been seeing her forever!!
>
> I dress for how I feel and she picks up on it right away and comments.
>
> You guys have way more fun, but thanks for including me.
> antigua
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 13:12:02
In reply to Re: the couch.., posted by Pfinstegg on March 10, 2004, at 1:23:38
Oh my I can help you and at little cost to revamp that wardrobe. OK jackets you wear are indoor jackets I take it...ohh we can do this. You need a few camesoles they ARE hot this year and you can get them at lower cost by shopping at J C Penneys or Kolh's if you have them they also have tank tops out with thin straps...so for instance...for that strawberry Jacket get a pink camesole or tank top..they ride LOW o.k...and maybe buy some fake pearls/or necklace that go lower to draw his eyes down..remember he is looking from your head down..right? Now add a cheap short skirt...black is safe..and you have a new outfit...some pink, black,white ,tanks or camesoles will give it all a NEW look just do NOT button the jacket. Try on the couch to keep your Knees up...and together,,,make that your focus so you don't mess up :)
HAHAHAHA, I am sorry but I am loling thinking of his trip and that making love gig. I STILL cannot believe you told him that. My T I like to think is asexual with all but someday me :P hahaha as IF!!! Though I do know some of his sayyy sexual things he does and doesnt do:) Ever think she may be not so fun and they don't DO IT...or don't much? Now HE WOLFCOSTUME T :) may be gawking at the gals "areas" in New Orleans....and maybe seeking beads himself...Hey if you had the money you could be in the crowd doing your think right near him.,.he would HAVE to look and wants to anyhow and you would come back with a TON OF BEADS.. :p OMG, I just busted out loling think of you watching GIRLS GONE WILD and seeing T tossing beads...maybe you need a trip south? in more ways than one hehe
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 13:13:48
In reply to Re: the couch.. » Pfinstegg, posted by tinydancer on March 10, 2004, at 2:06:47
You know, if we were all smart we could all start a new line of cloths...called T WEAR ,,,and well :) make a fortune
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 13:16:57
In reply to Re: the couch.. » Fallen4myT, posted by tinydancer on March 10, 2004, at 2:12:18
LMAO I am now thinking of those low rider jeans :) You need a short top to show some exposed tummy...mmm yummy to T ya know what I mean ? :P Ha, youre like me blowing cash to vamp the T with. Make up?
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 13:21:34
In reply to Re: the couch.., posted by Pfinstegg on March 10, 2004, at 1:23:38
I also think your T goes away too much and you may tell him I told you so :) I was thinking..the eyes girl smokey sexy eyes...too bad he doesnt have your face in view. I like to lock my eyes into my T's and look into his soul :) I am very good with the make up. I was even offered a job once by the Chanel chick at Marshall Fields once. Man, if we all lived close by we could set our appointments for the same day and have huge T work shops the night before lol...and go all vamped. My eyes and legs btw are really good and whatever your assets are.....pump them up :)
Posted by tinydancer on March 10, 2004, at 13:25:26
In reply to Re: the couch.. » tinydancer, posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 13:16:57
> LMAO I am now thinking of those low rider jeans :) You need a short top to show some exposed tummy...mmm yummy to T ya know what I mean ? :P Ha, youre like me blowing cash to vamp the T with. Make up?
I only wear a little and do a beige smoky eye...I do like perfume tho...Current favorite is Escada Ibiza Hippie...nice!!
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 13:26:43
In reply to Re: the couch.. » antigua, posted by CareBear04 on March 10, 2004, at 12:41:03
I am not antigua, but I will answer you on me till she gets back in this thread. I dont know if they arent suppose to say or not but um my T HAS said I dress well and once he really loved a necklace I had on, white gold chain NICE one with a trillion cut Aquamarine pendant hanging from it not too big but NOT small..this means he was looking at my like kind os chest area :) I FEEL GOOD ..when he comments on my looks makes me feel like say that last 70 dollar top was well worth it :) Glad to see ya join us here CARE
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 14:05:18
In reply to Re: the couch.. » Fallen4myT, posted by tinydancer on March 10, 2004, at 13:25:26
Ahhh sounds good..add just a tad more make up lol..The scent I do not know..I am stunned I missed a frangrence? OMG LOL..I wear Leu D' Issey by Issey Mirayake maybe mispelled HECK LOL I am sure its mispelled and I have Burberry Brit and a few others ..I like scent but keep it to just a few at T's so maybe Ill stay on his mind :)
Posted by antigua on March 10, 2004, at 14:20:54
In reply to Re: the couch.. » antigua, posted by CareBear04 on March 10, 2004, at 12:41:03
I don't mind when she comments, but of course she never tells me if I look like h@@ll. She says she can tell my mood by just looking at me walk in the door. No secrets here.
Today was funny, though. I was getting dressed this morning thinking of you guys, laughing a little and enjoying your fun vicariously, and decided to wear black jeans and jacket. I couldn't decide between two red tops--one was bright red, which I don't usually wear unless I feel good, and a more reddish/burgandy. I debated and decided on the more muted color. Walked into my T's office and she said, "O.k., who dressed us this morning?" She was wearing the black outfit with the bright red top (not jeans, of course, tailored slacks). She noticed before I did today. I told her that I had almost worn that and she said she wore the more muted red yesterday. Talk about a connection.
I told her about this thread and she loved it.
Then she told me how much fun it is to work w/couples in counseling and to see what they wear. She says they can be sitting there fighting, and one will be wearing, for example, a green shirt and brown pants and the other will be dressed oppositely--brown shirt and green pants and they don't even notice. She says it happens all the time, she can tell a lot by what someone wears.So, see, they do notice our clothes--so ENJOY the flirtation, it's good for you.
antigua
Posted by Pfinstegg on March 10, 2004, at 14:33:14
In reply to Re: the couch.. » Pfinstegg, posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 13:12:02
God, Fallen, you're right - the jackets are very pretty, and fit well, but I AM very COVERED UP. Getting matching camisoles and UNBUTTONING is a great idea! That's more do-able for me than adding a garter-belt which peeks out, ( though it's a lot of fun to imagine!) as I'd have to EXPLAIN the garter belt. I know that he would consider it an "enactment"- one of those things you have to talk about, rather than just freely do. What I'm aiming for is to gradually appear sexier, but in a natural way, so that I don't HAVE to explain myself. I love the camisole idea! Thanks! It's wonderful to have a T. fashion consultant- that part of you just magically popped up yesterday- just when we needed you the most!
As to New Orleans, I'd love to be there dancing anonymously alongside him, and just being as sexy as I want- being ME, and leaving all the inhibitions behind. And you're right - I do need more trips *south*. I can't deny it. And of course, I always think that I'd be a much more wild and passionate partner than his WIFE - don't you?
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 15:24:22
In reply to Re: the couch.. » antigua » CareBear04, posted by antigua on March 10, 2004, at 14:20:54
MEGA LOLING antigua, WE ARE CORRUPTING YOU :P I love it..tis fun no? :) Your T sounds fun and funny on the clothes deal and I wish I could have heard you explain this thread ...snickering wildly. SEE now you know...never second guess youreself on color..you would have matched....ESP <TWILIGHTZONE MUSIC PLAYING> So you admitted to her you dressed this way on purpose :)
Oh I love top flirt with my T but I am not one to SAY much just wish :)
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 15:32:24
In reply to Re: the couch.. » Fallen4myT, posted by Pfinstegg on March 10, 2004, at 14:33:14
Youre most welcome but you do realize you are not getting out of the garter belt that will come with the dress <BG> and youre talking about it can be....meeting someone after the session :)
I can feel you need a trip south me too man I could use that trip :P
BUT GIRL you would be YOU in New Orleans and trust me he would give you some beads and a few other things :)
I have no doubt youre MUCH better than his wife I just have a feeling shes all bored of him and it by now. Its like eating a bologna sandwich everyday for say 10 plus years.....you yearn for steak ...more later lol
>>Thanks! It's wonderful to have a T. fashion consultant- that part of you just magically popped up yesterday- just when we needed you the most!
As to New Orleans, I'd love to be there dancing anonymously alongside him, and just being as sexy as I want- being ME, and leaving all the inhibitions behind. And you're right - I do need more trips *south*. I can't deny it. And of course, I always think that I'd be a much more wild and passionate partner than his WIFE - don't you?
>>
Posted by Pfinstegg on March 10, 2004, at 18:57:45
In reply to Re: the couch.. » Pfinstegg, posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 15:32:24
I don't know how you did it, but now I've got an open mind about the garter belt! After all, life IS short! I think I'll need to work my way up to it via the new camisoles and beads.
I do something that I don't know if others do here; when I find myself in a great thread, I print it out for my T. This one with you has been just hilarious- and extremely helpful for me. He reads them through quickly ( I highlight them so he won't get bogged down). It invariably brings us important things to discuss- in this case, my desire to be sexy for my T. He loves the openness and spontaneity of PB, and wants those same qualities in the sessions.
So, thank you! I know this one was principally a help for me, but perhaps another one will be for you- such as- ways to put more things into words?
To me, this was PB at its funniest and most helpful- thanks once more!
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 20:55:20
In reply to Re: the couch.. » Fallen4myT, posted by Pfinstegg on March 10, 2004, at 18:57:45
OMG, youre going to show him these posts hahahah won't it blow the seductivness of it all? Or maybe he will go boooiiiiiiiing and be all waiting for the day to see it :) Well while he is looking them over ask him how I can get my T to make a move hehehehe hahahaha!!!! Cause I sure cannot seem to speak up :) so far anyhow. Doesnt he ever lol at the stuff like his WOLF outfit my T would lol ...man girl I envy you your ability to talk,,,,mix me and you and you have a T dynamo...and thank you it IS fun :P
Posted by Apperceptor on March 10, 2004, at 22:25:14
In reply to Awww, Fallen and Apperceptor..forgiveness is cool! (nm), posted by gardenergirl on March 9, 2004, at 23:17:21
I agree, I certainly feel badly for taking out whatever existential problems I may have on people on this board, and I'm so thrilled to have found such a great group of people.
My parents and sister are currently in town from halfway across the country, so I am spending the week catching up with them and showing them around the area. I hope to be back in full swing soon :-)
My best-
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 10, 2004, at 23:49:57
In reply to Re: Awww, Fallen and Apperceptor..forgiveness is cool!, posted by Apperceptor on March 10, 2004, at 22:25:14
Cool cause I was a bit worried on you and missed you. I am not always on on weekends when my husband is talking to me so I may not be on much..have fun with the family
> I agree, I certainly feel badly for taking out whatever existential problems I may have on people on this board, and I'm so thrilled to have found such a great group of people.
>
> My parents and sister are currently in town from halfway across the country, so I am spending the week catching up with them and showing them around the area. I hope to be back in full swing soon :-)
>
> My best-
Posted by lonelygirl on March 25, 2004, at 17:41:54
In reply to Most Embarrassing Therapy Moment, posted by Elle2021 on March 6, 2004, at 19:45:03
I can't believe I didn't see this thread earlier... (Good idea!)
I embarrass myself constantly, but I think my most embarrassing moment was during the initial consultation. On the intake form, there was a long list of things that I had to rate from 0 to 5 on how concerned I was about them. Of course I rated most of them 0 or 1, with the occasional 2 or 3, just 'cause I didn't want him to think I was crazy... Anyway, some of them pertained to eating and body image and stuff, and since one of my, uh, big problems is that I am very overweight, I marked some of those 2 or 3. When he went over the form with me in the intake session, I was so embarrassed because then I realized that they meant those questions for anorexics/bulimics, not for people who OVER-eat, or who have an accurate hatred of their bodies. I felt like he was looking at me funny for rating those.
I was also really embarrassed when he asked me a bunch of standard questions, straight from a list I'm sure, about how I'm sleeping, how's my appetite, etc. When he got to that one, I just glared at him, thinking, "You dumb@$$, can't you see for yourself that my appetite is just f*ing fine?!"
I think the runner up would be that I was kind of mean to him before I started liking him. I was very angry about being forced to go to counseling, so I was determined to make it clear that I was only there because I had to be. I was required to go to 6 sessions, and I did 2 before the month-long winter break. I was very busy the first week back, so I didn't make another appointment, and the second week of school, he called me to "touch base" with me (i.e., remind me that I was going to be in trouble if I didn't do the mandatory counseling). I wasn't there, so he left a message and I called back later. He said, "So, um, would you like to make another appointment?" and I said, in my most bored/exasperated voice, "Well, I GUESS so."
I am still horrified that I was ever anything less than the nicest I could possibly be to him... Except, in kind of a twisted way, I think it may make him like me a little more, because you know how people like to be "the one who got through" or something. So he knows that he totally turned me around from being angry and distrustful to coming in voluntarily and liking him.
One more thing that is related to this: at one point, I admitted that it's "not so bad," but I kind of felt like I was supposed to hate it since it was my punishment. He smiled and said, "This is something I do in couples counseling sometimes..." and he told me to hold up my hand. Then he held up his hand and pressed it against mine, and he stood up (still pressing on my hand), and then he told me to get up, but he was pushing too hard on my hand and I couldn't (which was the point of this exercise). He said, "You could have easily gotten up if you had just dropped your hand to your side, but when I was standing there pushing on your hand, the instinct was to push back." Ok, there wasn't much of a point to that except that HE TOUCHED MY HAND! I had one of those, "I'll never wash this hand again!" moments. Oh, and also that I feel stupid for falling for it, and if I could do it over, I would have shoved as hard as I could and gotten up (I bet it would have worked because he wouldn't have been expecting a sudden, hard shove). I bet he would have found that amusing.
Oh, I have one more embarrassing moment! He likes to make metaphors a lot. Most of them are really cheesy and I have to struggle not to laugh out loud (one time, he said, "I feel like I'm talking to a poker player." Yeah, I get it, ha ha, I keep a straight face. But then he continued, "I just want to see your cards." I could not make eye contact with him for the next 5 minutes. Then he added, "Oh, I didn't mean that in a dirty way or anything.").
One time, he said, "I feel like I'm doing guerilla counseling here." I almost got mad, because I thought he was calling me a GORILLA (because I didn't talk much and answered half of his questions by shrugging my shoulders). Fortunately, before I could show my annoyance, he went on to say, "I feel like I have to sneak up on you and do some counseling, and then go find another angle and sneak up on you again." All with really funny gestures.
Wait, just thought of one more! I got written up because I was mad about something, and I was in my dorm room throwing a fit about it. Some jerkwad reported this (even though it wasn't during "quiet hours" or anything) and I got in trouble. The school "authorities" called my psychologist about it so we talked about it at the next session. He asked me what I was yelling, and I said, "Use your imagination." He said, "Ok, I can imagine you just yelling, like 'AAAAHHHHHH,' or I can imagine you cursing like a sailor, like, 'SH**... F***!' or I can imagine..." At this point, I cut him off and said, "OKAY! I don't need to hear impressions of myself! Geez."
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 25, 2004, at 18:03:08
In reply to Re: Most Embarrassing Therapy Moment, posted by lonelygirl on March 25, 2004, at 17:41:54
Lol Lonelygirl I loled so much reading your post....so funny and I love the way you have with words. I had to lol at the hand deal cause I wold be SO having my hand cast in gold to have that touch forever. Your T sounds so nice and funny he has humor like you too and I can see he really does like YOU for you not for the ego trip and all but all in all your post made me lol.
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