Psycho-Babble Psychology Thread 586998

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Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah)

Posted by gardenergirl on December 8, 2005, at 17:28:12

I think they forgot to tell my T I was there today. I waited til 25 minutes after my appt., and then I finally left. He often is running late, and heck, I'm often late arriving, so it's usually no big deal...ten minutes max.
Today I was cranky, in pain from a muscle spasm in my upper back and neck, and feeling nauseated due to taking an anti-inflammatory on a mostly empty stomach (I know, I know.) So the longer I waited, the more ill I felt, until I was afraid I was going toss my cookies right there in the waiting room. So I told myself I would wait til 20 after 2, and then I cheated and said 25 after, and if he hadn't come out to get me, I was going to leave.
Now...can somebody tell me why I didn't ask anyone if they told him I was there, or what the hold-up was? Was I really feeling sick, or did I just feel like bailing? And I did get teary when I got to my car. I was just feeling so poopy. In fact, I called my GP and got in to see him about my neck.
(Sheesh, I forget that he is a D.O. He is one of the ones who still does "adjustments". Eek! Never had that before! Man oh man, it was loud!...still hurts and is stiff, too.)
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
a cranky gg

((((((((gardenergirl)))))))))))))) » gardenergirl

Posted by happyflower on December 8, 2005, at 17:38:07

In reply to Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah), posted by gardenergirl on December 8, 2005, at 17:28:12

My Doc is a DO too, and will do those neck adjusments too, but they freak me out. I am like what if they make a mistake or something. It really grosses me out when people crack their knuckles. AAAUUUGGGHh, I can hear the sound now!
Just relax and rest, and your neck will feel better. Did he tell you to put heat or ice on it? I know some Motrin would help a lot too. I hope you feel better and can make up your T appointment. (((((((gardenergirl)))))))))
I am really missing my gardening, we have about 7 inches of snow on my garden. Will spring ever get here? LOL

Thank you for the trigger warning :) » gardenergirl

Posted by Dinah on December 8, 2005, at 17:53:36

In reply to Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah), posted by gardenergirl on December 8, 2005, at 17:28:12

I'm so sorry about your neck. :( The pills aren't helping? I have an old bathing injury, and heat often helps it.
How about a bit of both? I remember the time I went to therapy with my first bout of kidney stones and I sure wanted to cancel, without any help from my therapist being late. It's hard to be therapeutic when you're in a cold sweat.
But I also remember those few times when he's more than his usual ten minutes or so late. By the time he gets to twenty, I'm combined fuming and anxious and halfway sick just from that. Yet I just extend the time period that I'm willing to wait and am polite if somewhat pointed when he comes to get me. He hasn't completely forgotten me - yet. Did you ever find out what was going on? Did he call with copious mea culpas? I think that's the least you deserve.

Re: Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah) » gardenergirl

Posted by fallsfall on December 8, 2005, at 19:03:48

In reply to Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah), posted by gardenergirl on December 8, 2005, at 17:28:12

You don't want it to be your therapist's fault:
>I think they forgot to tell my T I was there today
I'm sorry you were feeling lousy. You might want to figure out why you didn't ask them... That doesn't really sound like you???

ice!! » gardenergirl

Posted by Shortelise on December 9, 2005, at 1:48:40

In reply to Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah), posted by gardenergirl on December 8, 2005, at 17:28:12

Are you using ice? It's the most effective things for muscle spasms. And if you can get someone to help you, do heat, then ice, always ending with ice.
Heat for 2 minutes, then ice for one minute. Do this about ten times each. What this does is move the blodd in and out of the tissues, sort of like a massage, but without manipulation of any kind. Again, end with ice.
Both my husband and I get muscle spasms. Ice is ESSENTIAL, especially after adjustments. We have four ice packs in the freezer.
Once the spasms have calmed down, then use whatever feels best, heat or ice. But while they are still happening, ice really is best.
Take care, gg, and forgive me if I have just told you things you already know.
And by the way, the leaving instead of inquiring about where your T was? I've done that. I would sit there and say to myself, well, he obviously doesn't care about me at all, now does he? He is just going to leave me sit here, isn't he? He'll see me at his convenience, won't he? Hrmph. Well. Hrmph. Hrmph. I think I'll just leave. He won't care, will he?
Etc. Etc. Etc.
ShortE

Re: ((((((((gardenergirl)))))))))))))) » happyflower

Posted by gardenergirl on December 9, 2005, at 7:16:43

In reply to ((((((((gardenergirl)))))))))))))) » gardenergirl, posted by happyflower on December 8, 2005, at 17:38:07

> My Doc is a DO too, and will do those neck adjusments too, but they freak me out. I am like what if they make a mistake or something. It really grosses me out when people crack their knuckles. AAAUUUGGGHh, I can hear the sound now!
LOL, I guess if we ever meet, I shouldn't tilt my head and crack my neck. ;)
> Just relax and rest, and your neck will feel better. Did he tell you to put heat or ice on it? I know some Motrin would help a lot too. I hope you feel better and can make up your T appointment. (((((((gardenergirl)))))))))
Thanks for the support and the hug. You know, he didn't say anything about heat or ice. He did give me a muscle relaxant and told me it was okay to take some Mobic (an anti-inflammatory) I had left over from some foot pain.
I doubt I'll get to make up the appt. I have a standing appt. on Mondays, and I have to work all day today. He better return my email, though!
> I am really missing my gardening, we have about 7 inches of snow on my garden. Will spring ever get here? LOL
LOL, winter hasn't even officially begun yet. But I agree. Gardening is so therapeutic. Maybe some day I can have a little garden outside a little house where I practice. On nice days, I can go out there with my clients and play in the dirt as we talk. Good idea?
Thanks again,
gg

Re: Thank you for the trigger warning :) » Dinah

Posted by gardenergirl on December 9, 2005, at 7:23:50

In reply to Thank you for the trigger warning :) » gardenergirl, posted by Dinah on December 8, 2005, at 17:53:36

> I'm so sorry about your neck. :( The pills aren't helping? I have an old bathing injury, and heat often helps it.
Heat is helping a tiny bit, but the effects don't last. :( Hopefully the anti-inflammatory and the muscle relaxant will help.
>
> How about a bit of both? I remember the time I went to therapy with my first bout of kidney stones and I sure wanted to cancel, without any help from my therapist being late. It's hard to be therapeutic when you're in a cold sweat.
I agree. I've gone before with a massive headache, and it was very hard to concentrate. But I suspect that even if I had been feeling okay, the longer I waited, the more likely I would have wanted to run. In thinking about this, I'm not sure quite what's going on, but I think I don't want to face him for some reason. Maybe I'm mad at reducing frequency? I might also be feeling bad enough about something (bad about myself about a certain issue) that I'm projecting this onto him, and then dreading seeing him? I don't know. Didn't sleep well last night, woke up early, and had these thoughts zooming around in my head.
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> But I also remember those few times when he's more than his usual ten minutes or so late. By the time he gets to twenty, I'm combined fuming and anxious and halfway sick just from that. Yet I just extend the time period that I'm willing to wait and am polite if somewhat pointed when he comes to get me.
That's so funny. That's exactly how I was feeling, although not really fuming yet. I was sort of flat.
>Did you ever find out what was going on? Did he call with copious mea culpas? I think that's the least you deserve.
Nothing yet. I emaile d him last night, but it was likely after he went home for the day. He's occasionally returned my emails, but only if they pertain to scheduling issues. He's NEVER called me except to cancel once and to tell me he was running late another time. I suppose he's likely to apologize, and I'll politely say, "It's okay" even if it's not. Grrrrr. I'm realizing I'm not so assertive with him.
Sigh, more grist.
gg

Re: Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah) » fallsfall

Posted by gardenergirl on December 9, 2005, at 7:28:51

In reply to Re: Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah) » gardenergirl, posted by fallsfall on December 8, 2005, at 19:03:48

> You don't want it to be your therapist's fault:
>
> >I think they forgot to tell my T I was there today
Hmmm, that's an interesting perspective. I'll have to think about that, and what it might mean if it IS his fault. You know, in the email I sent him last night, *I* actually apologized for leaving! (shakes head in disgust...) And I kind of forgot I eamiled him until this morning while reading these posts. Dang it, now I'm going to be checking my email all the time til I get a reply or give up.
>
> I'm sorry you were feeling lousy. You might want to figure out why you didn't ask them... That doesn't really sound like you???
Usually it's not, but I think I am sort of passive there a lot. I think I was feeling very young and invisible yesterday. And sometimes invisible is a preferred feeling, because it's "known"??? I don't know.
Sigh, I hate that I only go once a week now. Since I didn't have one this week, I feel like there's SO much to tell him, and clearly there's something to talk about. Ugh ugh ugh.
Maybe I should email him the "events" just to know I told him and to get them out of the way.
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Thanks for offering your insights, falls. They are always food for thought.
gg

Re: ice!! » Shortelise

Posted by gardenergirl on December 9, 2005, at 7:32:56

In reply to ice!! » gardenergirl, posted by Shortelise on December 9, 2005, at 1:48:40

> Are you using ice? It's the most effective things for muscle spasms. And if you can get someone to help you, do heat, then ice, always ending with ice.
Thanks for the suggestion, and I fear (LOL) you're right. It's just so hard to think of putting ice on my back when it's 17 outside and only about 59 or 60 inside (Dang my husband and his frugality! And dang the price of natural gas!)
But I've iced injuries and sore areas before, and I think it has helped more than heat at times. I'll brave it.
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> Take care, gg, and forgive me if I have just told you things you already know.
No worries. It's good advice, and I appreciate the specific instructions.
>
> And by the way, the leaving instead of inquiring about where your T was? I've done that. I would sit there and say to myself, well, he obviously doesn't care about me at all, now does he? He is just going to leave me sit here, isn't he? He'll see me at his convenience, won't he? Hrmph. Well. Hrmph. Hrmph. I think I'll just leave. He won't care, will he?
Ugh, that feels like a yucky feeling. I don't think I quite was feeling that. I think I was sort of conflicted between counting the minutes until I could "appropriately" decide to bail and hoping, of course that he would come out any minute. Obviously the first one won out. It was sort of like when you get to class, and the teacher is late, and the class decides to leave after 15 minutes.
Thanks for the adv-ICE (lol) and support.
gg

Re: Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah) » gardenergirl

Posted by fairywings on December 9, 2005, at 9:37:23

In reply to Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah), posted by gardenergirl on December 8, 2005, at 17:28:12

I think the longer I wait the more embarrassed I feel about not saying something, then it gets to the point where it's too embarrassing to say anything at all. My T is always late, so I don't worry about it when it gets to be 20 or 25 min. past my appt. time. With any doc, other than my pdoc, I'd get really pissy too. I think when you don't feel well though, maybe the sick feeling and fear of getting ill would send me running. For me, digestive ills during therapy, or anywhere, would really be embarrasing. And when I don't get to go to an expected appt with my T it makes me really sad because I usually have something I want to talk to him about.
I hope you feel better.
(((hugs)))
fw

Re: Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah) » fairywings

Posted by gardenergirl on December 9, 2005, at 9:56:43

In reply to Re: Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah) » gardenergirl, posted by fairywings on December 9, 2005, at 9:37:23

Thanks. Yeah, the fear of getting sick was sort of prominent.
And you know what? I don't think he's going to reply to my email. There's nothing in my inbox as of yet. In my email I said, "I look forward to seeing you Monday." That probably means to him that he doesn't have to address it til then.
Grrrrr.
gg

Re: Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah) » gardenergirl

Posted by daisym on December 9, 2005, at 10:21:53

In reply to Re: Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah) » fairywings, posted by gardenergirl on December 9, 2005, at 9:56:43

I'm sorry you missed your appointment. I'm glad my therapist is rarely late (once in 2 1/2 yrs) usually it is me! I worry all the time that someone else will show up that needs to see him worse than I do and he will choose them. (Yeah, yeah, I know...)
It sounds like you have a handle on why you bolted and/or didn't ask after 10 minutes. But do you also think that after all this time when we get to the waiting room, we automatically begin to deconstruct our defenses and we do feel more vulnerable, perhaps younger and definitely less assertive. Almost a pavlovian response?
I'd send him another email, with the details, so you can let go of it for the weekend.

Re: Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah) » daisym

Posted by gardenergirl on December 9, 2005, at 10:57:00

In reply to Re: Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah) » gardenergirl, posted by daisym on December 9, 2005, at 10:21:53

Hmmm, that's a good theory about defenses letting go.
I just got a reply to my email. In mine, I started it off by saying, "I don't know if they didn't tell you I was there or if you were running late, but...."
His reply: "Hope you are feeling better. See you Monday."
Aaaaaaargh!
I really should call him, but I feel embarrassed and actually too annoyed. But I will probably spend too much time thinking about this.
Grrrrrrr.
gg

Re: Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah) » gardenergirl

Posted by fairywings on December 9, 2005, at 11:35:44

In reply to Re: Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah) » daisym, posted by gardenergirl on December 9, 2005, at 10:57:00

Yeah, I think I'd zip him off another email. That response would have me boiling. By Monday I'd be really angry. You'd think he'd at least apologize for you going out of your way, them not telling him you were there, you missing your appt. Sorry, I guess I'm not helping! I can just "feel" it.
fw

I called

Posted by gardenergirl on December 9, 2005, at 12:11:26

In reply to Re: Speaking of Grrrrrrrrrr (trigger to Dinah) » gardenergirl, posted by fairywings on December 9, 2005, at 11:35:44

I actually was just calling the receptionist to verify that the time of my appt. was actually the time I showed. I didn't expect to talk to him, and I didn't have any time, since my client showed up right as the call started.
But they put me through to him. He hadn't been told that I was there, and he didn't think to check since I had called ahead to say I was going to be a little late due to traffic. I was only five minutes late, but no one told him I had arrived.
He seemed to "get" right away what had happened and how I might be feeling, but I had no time to talk about it with him. Probably good, because I felt a little like crying, and I certainly couldn't do that right before a session with a client. D'oh!
At any rate, we confirmed my Monday appt., and I'm sure I'll feel less obsessed about this. Probably have a bit of a cry anyway when I get home.
Thanks everyone for emotionally holding my hand through this. Hmm, is it possible to have PMS after your cycle? And why do I feel I need to minimize or explain my emotional reaction.
Bleah.
gg