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Posted by Squiggles on September 10, 2007, at 16:58:33
Maybe some of the therapists here have seen something like this, which cannot be explained by medication problems (my way). What can possibly make a person turn extremely aggressive, abusive and mean for no apparent reason towards someone he has hurt? Is this a psychological phenomenon of projection or something like that? I just don't get it. Any experience with people doing this; imagine a scenario like this: Person X hits, hurts, screams, cheats, or smears person Y. Person Y, asks what is the matter all of a sudden? Person X gets furious, flies into rages, screams and doubles the abuse, with no rational explanation.
What's going on here? I say lack of meds, or possibly frontal lobe damage. But is this a common pattern otherwise explained in therapeutic circles?
Thanks
Squiggles
Posted by DAisym on September 10, 2007, at 20:03:33
In reply to Incomprehensible changes, posted by Squiggles on September 10, 2007, at 16:58:33
I'm not a therapist, but in my experience pain and fear can cause this kind of reaction. A person in pain is not always "rational" and a comment questioning their behavior may be misinterpreted as not believing that they hurt. A person who is afraid may act "badly" due to the fear and then be embarrassed or ashamed and act even worse as a defense.
The whole thing sounds really awful. And sadly familiar.
Posted by muffled on September 10, 2007, at 20:20:22
In reply to Incomprehensible changes, posted by Squiggles on September 10, 2007, at 16:58:33
Sorry to see this dilemma Squiggles, but all I can say is, I not a T, but x needs to get some serious help. Maybe eliminate physical causes, and followup w/possible psychiatic/med issues.
Mebbe Y needs to keep herself safe.
Emotionally and physically...
Best wishes,
M
Posted by Dory on September 10, 2007, at 20:59:03
In reply to Incomprehensible changes, posted by Squiggles on September 10, 2007, at 16:58:33
many unmedicated conditions can cause irrational and abusive behaviours. The scenario you describe is not unfamiliar to me but i cannot elaborate on that. Rapid and dramatic mood changes are signatures of several conditions. The sad thing is that diagnosis is based more on a set of given symptoms or behaviours, etc, than on something biological or something which can be tested (with exception to extreme schizophrenia which shows brain changes).
That does not mean that X has a diagnosable condition but based on your brief description then i would tend to think so. HOWEVER, people who committ offenses against another, whether defined as abuse or not, often deal with their internal guilt and rationalize by blaming the other and becoming angry. That can become a pattern of behaviour that does not necessarily mean an illness is present but certainly indicates X needs some help. Trouble is.. you can't tell someone else to get help, they have to see it themselves.
Posted by Squiggles on September 11, 2007, at 9:53:33
In reply to Re: Incomprehensible changes » Squiggles, posted by muffled on September 10, 2007, at 20:20:22
Thank Dory for your insight-- yes life and
illness coincide for such reactions - i am
aware of that. And thanks muffled for your
advice. I'm taking care of myself.Two words: unmedicated depression.
Squiggles
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