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Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 1, 2011, at 15:34:25
Hello Babble, my doctor im so glad she put me on wellbutrin because she's not a nice doctor. She's too smart but she did it for me this time.
Listen, I think this is the same thing with the strattrea but I can't feel the effects of wellbutrin at all and I don't know if I just have a very high tolerance to drugs and medications. I mean I can't feel anything. When I take Tylenol PM i don't get that "feeling" that the diphendriphine [misspelled] gave me. It doesnt work on me anymore. I feel I am metabolizing too much of the drugs that I put in my body. The same thing happened with strattera....i felt nothing no diffrence if I took a sugar pill.
Does anyone know what to do?? i mean its like litterly im taking a pill of salt because no effects come on me. I have to jet ginsing down my throught to get a stimulating effect.
I don't think many theroies could tell me why. I just know that I can't feel much effect of wellbutrin at all. I hate my system because it doesnt accept things it doesnt want.
Posted by emmanuel98 on September 1, 2011, at 18:38:42
In reply to My doctor put me on Wellbutrin BUT.. please read, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 1, 2011, at 15:34:25
Welbutrin is supposed to be activating, but when I tried it once, I became severely depressed and couldn't get out of bed. I stopped the wellbutrin and felt better. Everyone's body and brain are different.
Posted by Phillipa on September 1, 2011, at 18:53:53
In reply to Re: My doctor put me on Wellbutrin BUT.. please read, posted by emmanuel98 on September 1, 2011, at 18:38:42
Sure are as wellbutrin l50mg in one weeks time caused hospitalization as I appeared manic to doc. I guess not a good med if anxiety prime symptom. We sure are all different Phillipa
Posted by Solstice on September 1, 2011, at 19:57:11
In reply to My doctor put me on Wellbutrin BUT.. please read, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 1, 2011, at 15:34:25
> Hello Babble, my doctor im so glad she put me on wellbutrin because she's not a nice doctor. She's too smart but she did it for me this time.
>
> Listen, I think this is the same thing with the strattrea but I can't feel the effects of wellbutrin at all and I don't know if I just have a very high tolerance to drugs and medications. I mean I can't feel anything. When I take Tylenol PM i don't get that "feeling" that the diphendriphine [misspelled] gave me. It doesnt work on me anymore. I feel I am metabolizing too much of the drugs that I put in my body. The same thing happened with strattera....i felt nothing no diffrence if I took a sugar pill.
>
> Does anyone know what to do?? i mean its like litterly im taking a pill of salt because no effects come on me. I have to jet ginsing down my throught to get a stimulating effect.
>
> I don't think many theroies could tell me why. I just know that I can't feel much effect of wellbutrin at all. I hate my system because it doesnt accept things it doesnt want.
What are you expecting it to do, Matt? If you're expecting Wellbutrin to give you a high, you'll be disappointed. Wellbutrin is a mood-lifter. I have taken it to treat my depression for six years now. I had to take it for a couple of months before I noticed a difference, but depression is a weird thing. I don't think many people experience immediate and substantial relief and are transformed into 'happy' people a week after they start ANY anti-depressant.I don't think it's your 'system' that's the problem - as much as it's your overwhelming desire to feed your addiction and your disappointment that you can't find a permissible medication that will provide that effect. It's your expectations that are causing you trouble, Matt.. and there aren't drugs that will fix your misplaced expectations.
Kathie
Posted by Christ_empowered on September 1, 2011, at 20:09:54
In reply to My doctor put me on Wellbutrin BUT.. please read, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 1, 2011, at 15:34:25
OK, I don't know you, so I can't be sure of this, but I kind of feel as if you're trying to put together something to equal an amphetamine. Its probably not going to happen. Straterra+Wellbutrin does not = amphetamine, it just doesn't work that way.
Have you considered a public health doctor? In my area, they can't/don't/won't Rx controlled substances. They are, however, surprisingly professional and helpful. Plus, its cheaper than going to most private practice places and there's considerably less BS to deal with. They could probably hook you up with low- or no-cost therapy, group therapy, and other stuff, too. Since you're not going to be getting controlled drugs from this doc anyway, why not ditch her for a cheaper, possibly more helpful place?
Also: are you still taking the zyprexa? I seem to recall you were on a high dose. Here's the thing...zyprexa+wellbutrin works for some schizophrenic patients, because the wellbutrin takes the edge of the zyprexa and vice versa; it treats psychosis while giving these people a much needed "lift" in terms of mood and concentration. Thing is, you're not schizophrenic. I would imagine that a sufficient dose of a heavy tranquilizer like Zyprexa could negate the stimulating effects of the wellbutrin and possibly the straterra, too. Personally, I think its kind of irresponsible of your doc to put you on psychosis-level neuroleptic drugs, but that's just me.
Good luck.
Posted by hyperfocus on September 1, 2011, at 21:25:24
In reply to My doctor put me on Wellbutrin BUT.. please read, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 1, 2011, at 15:34:25
Matt it can take up to 8 weeks for a new drug to start being effective. There's no magic pill, unfortunately, believe me I've searched. I don't think you're showing drug-seeking behavior now, but you have to recognize that nothing will make you feel like short-term stimulant use, not even long-term stimulant use.
The heavy doses of Zyprexa and Prozac you're on can cause serious apathy and anhedonia. Is there any reason you're on an anti-psychotic? What's your dx?
If I were you I'd drop everything and wait for it all to wash out of your system then start over. You can start with drugs like Strattera if you want, then go from there.
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 1, 2011, at 23:09:35
In reply to Re: My doctor put me on Wellbutrin BUT.. please read » rjlockhart04-08, posted by hyperfocus on September 1, 2011, at 21:25:24
Ok I am not looking for a high im simply looking for a lift in concentration that amphetamine gave and I DO know that I can't get that from Wellbutrin. Wellbutrin I've been on it many years before in 2004 and all it will do if abused will give siezures and irrtibility. Its not a strong DRI like Methyphenidate.
I actaully am asking what its causing this blockade of any effects I feel. I simply feel like its a sugar pill when I take it. I'm not LOOKING for a high. Those days a pretty much over for right now. I'm looking for an increase in the mood and in energy because I have taken wellbutrin before and it gave energy and anxiety. There something that ...
Like when I take Tylenol PM [by the way, when it did work this is nothing to get high on] but now when i take it nothing happens. It's like a swallowed a sugar pill. Nothing happens. My body has developed this tolerance to drugs very strongly. Certain drugs.
Please don't think im trying to crush these Wellbutrin pills up and snort them like a desperate addict would. I am sick of this label.
I am recovering addict. I never snorted pills. I snorted cocaine and that's it. Please don't look at me so dirty like that label of a desperate addict trying to get a high.
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 1, 2011, at 23:16:14
In reply to Re: My doctor put me on Wellbutrin BUT.. please read, posted by Solstice on September 1, 2011, at 19:57:11
ok .... I know very much that you think I am trying to get a high but Im serious im not looking for a high at all. I'm looking for improved concentration and higher attention levels with out the stimulation that stimulants gave me. My expectations are for something to work...not make me high or feel speedy. When I take wellbutrin and ALSO Strattrea....nothing happened and I'm not meaning nothing happened suddently to give me a buzz. I mean NOTHING happened. It was like taking something and it not being absorbed or passing through the blood barrier place in your brain. That's what.
I know wellbutrin is not going to get me high. I abused it in 2004 and it gave me siezure in the car. Wellbutrin has been known to cause sieuzres at high doses and that's exactly what happened and that's why I stopped taking it. I know thats what would happen if I mistook it again. Insanity.
Thanks you Kathy. Your a good friend. Ill see you around.
Matt
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 1, 2011, at 23:37:06
In reply to Re: My doctor put me on Wellbutrin BUT.. please read, posted by Christ_empowered on September 1, 2011, at 20:09:54
Yes ........ I know very much Wellbutrin is not related or does any thing that amphetamine does. It does work similary to Ritilin but it works more on noradrenaline that's why it causes more anxiety and stimulation. Some people can handle it better than others. I used to RESEARCH for hours about this in 2003-2009 I was trying to find something to Add to the amphetamine I already had. I know alot about this, i just forgot all the stuff I read when I was buzzed on amphetamine looking for a better way.
I will have to look into the public professionals. Privite practices really are money driven people. I can't afford it on my own. I am 24 so I have 2 more years until I will be off my parents insurance. I will have to MHMR in tarrant county in fort worth, tx.
I take 20mg of Zyprexa Prozac 60mg. Yes it is a high dose and you know what....they have no effect because when I take them my body has became so resistant and tolerant to high medication levels. It's like its not even working anyore. I don't feel the happyness i felt on prozzac back a couple a years ago. I just took my zyprexa for the night and I feel no sedation nor helping with thoughts. It doesnt WORK. I don't know how to expalin this situation but its like I take them and they don't get absorbed or pass thought the blood brain barrier.
I will get off zyprexa because frankly it makes me fat and slow. I can't stand all the weight gain it gave me. I AT LEAST gained 40-50lbs on this. I may go to Lamictal. My doctor told me about something called Latunda. It's a new nueroleptic but the thing is .... "im not psychotic" ... i have mood swings once and while that are not that bad.... and I could deal with them without medication. It's my depression and lack of concentration and attnetion. I have a low prosessing speed to. So I have no idea what TO do. I really wished someone would just SCRIPED ME what I want.
If I had this I would be one happy camper but its not going to happen. For Now at least.
Thank you for your post.
Matt
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 1, 2011, at 23:46:13
In reply to Re: My doctor put me on Wellbutrin BUT.. please read » rjlockhart04-08, posted by hyperfocus on September 1, 2011, at 21:25:24
Yes, I am just worried its not getting passed the blood brain barrier. There is no magic pill. I have been in drug seeking behaviors before on this website.
The Zyprexa and the Prozac have lost their effect. I can't just stop them. I mean really if I wanted to .... I could stop all these medications and nothing would happen because their doing NOTHING. The only reason I take them is because my doctor believes I should take them and its handed to me by my mother in the mornings and at night. I can't even take my own medication because my mother thinks im very irresposible with taking more than what Im suppost to.
This is my doctor:
http://www.santecenter.com/about/staff/index.html?staff_id=2
Posted by creepy on September 2, 2011, at 0:09:44
In reply to My doctor put me on Wellbutrin BUT.. please read, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 1, 2011, at 15:34:25
I dont like wellbutrin much. It can sometimes get me motivated but for the most part all I get from it are physical anxiety symptoms.
I think 300mg is the average effective dose. 450 is max.
If youre having issues with energy then NE and DA augmentation might help. But for depression it just didnt cut it for me, anyhow.
Posted by Solstice on September 3, 2011, at 16:46:38
In reply to Re: hyperfocus, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 1, 2011, at 23:46:13
> The only reason I take them is because my doctor believes I should take them and its handed to me by my mother in the mornings and at night. I can't even take my own medication because my mother thinks im very irresposible with taking more than what Im suppost to.
Well Matt... you did say that in the past you got kinda crazy with taking Wellbutrin and had a seizure while driving. Wellbutrin isn't a controlled substance and is not an addictive agent.. so your history of taking so much that you had a seizure really does say something about the extent of trouble you have with drug-seeking behaviors. For that reason - thank goodness your mother is ensuring you get treatment, without having access where you could harm yourself or others. She's doing a public service :-) And as for insurance.. your parents can continue to carry you if your doctor fills out paperwork saying that you need to be carried as a disabled dependent. I'm doubtful that you'll get what you want from public health doctors that treat the indigent. They see it all - and you'll probably be in the same boat you're in now.. with a doctor who recognizes your drug-seeking tendencies and will be just as careful as the one you've got now about what they give you.
Sol
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