Re: Asperger's vs. psychosis » rjlockhart37

> listen...yea people here on babble have told me those are high duty meds....
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People on babble have been taking meds for decades. They know what are the heavy-duty meds and what they can do to a person. It's not just your brain you have to worry about -- you're putting your body at serious risk. The doses of meds you're taking I'd more expect to find on a psych word as treatment for severely psychotic patients, not for a twenty-something kid with ASD living at home.

>but listen, like i said before my body has created a resistance against my medication...
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That's not possible except for things like antibiotics. What is probable is that you are being wrongly and excessively medicated for conditions you do not have.

>i've been tryin to keep to myself because no one listens and tellsm me its all in my head.
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What I'm saying is it's not what you think it is. Aspies have a unique inner cognitive style that is hyper-rational and hyper-verbal. When dealing with bad experiences it can feel as if you are fighting against another separate voice or consciousness in your mind. Did you often make up plays and films and scenarios in your head when you were a child? It's the same thing. Yes there's an element of involuntariness and intrusiveness and combativeness especially when trying to cope with emotionally traumatic issues, but it is more of a PTSD-type alteration with repressed emotions compartmentalized as seemingly separate voices or personalities. Have you ever been checked for C-PTSD? C-PTSD and severe anxiety and depression are epidemic among aspies.

It doesnt take effect, maybe its tolerance....or some chemical the body made to cancel it out. I know what its like to be on full doses of prozac and zyprexa...its a wierd feeling....its not that bad...because i was on this when i was in rehab....the zyprexa really SLOWED down things....
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Antipsychotics can have significant anti-anxiety effects because of their heavy dopamine antagonism. This is completely different from what people with psychosis experience with their treatment with antipsychotics. Severe anxiety presents as some level of paranoia and delusions but is not psychosis. Severe distress in aspies can manifest as almost hallucinatory hearing of voices in your mind but is NOT psychosis. Zyprexa slows down everything -- including your ability to think and focus and feel. It can be calming at first but it's not a long-term solution. Meds are very limited as to what they can do -- memories and cognition and behaviour interact with each other in very complex ways. The way you think and what you feel is how your brain is wired -- you can't make long-term changes through meds alone.

> but yea i have to admit that is a ... wierd...but my diagnosis from my doctor is schizoeffective, and some forms of psychosis without paranoid type. It's the spiritual issues that i told them, and still it does preoccupy me....thinking im jumping sides between jesus christ and lucifer....and lucifer is in my thoughts...its silly...but its pretty real....but if all this stupid spiritual stuff wasnt here... i know i have depression and ADHD with some forms of anxiety.
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All this stupid spiritual stuff is just your mind working. Your mind verbalizes opinions and concepts and jumps from one thing to the next very quickly -- when in distress it can seem like you are waging a war inside yourself. It's coming from the same place where you read about and write about video games or meds or things you take an interest in on your own. You could be doing original research in theology or writing or something when you get better.

> I'm wierd....i was diagnosed with aspergger's in 2008 and i do have some signs of it...but not all of it. Schizophenia was another diagnosis in 2012 on a psych exam i had to take for a goverment program called DARS.
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People with Asperger's are commonly misdiagnosed with schizo* because of their flat emotional affect, lack of non-verbal communication, and especially how their mind works. The original term for Asperger's was autistic psychopathy -- to tell you how far the discoverer was from the actual basis of the condition -- but aspies and psychopaths are at the extremes of the neurodevelopmental spectrum. It's not that you don't feel anything -- you actually feel too much. Aspies feel loneliness and fear failure and rejection much more acutely than neurotypical people. Couple that with severe deficits in social cognition and ADD-level inattention and so many other deficits, it makes for an extraordinarily difficult growing up. Depression, anxiety, social phobia, PTSD are all epidemic among aspies, but they must be treated specifically for what they have, not just by blindfire Lamictal and Zyprexa.

> i know...its just my doctor is bit difficult to work with....
I think you need to find a doctor with expertise in dealing with people with autism spectrum disorder. I struggled for two decades with multiple conflicting diagnoses and a host of useless antidepressant and antipsychotic med treatments before I was finally able to find some hope and a path to get better

In my opinion you need to understand and separate neurodevelopmental conditions from psychological issues and understand what your strengths are vs. your deficits. You have Asperger's, which means for example you will always be hypersensitive to criticism, always have high-levels of anxiety, always have trouble communicating and expressing what you are feeling, always have severe problems with social interactions, always have ADD-level inattention. But for all these things there are many more positive qualities.

If I were you rj I'd ask your doctor taper off all of your meds because I doubt they are helping you any. There are several non-stimulant ADD meds you can try and specific learning and studying and working techniques you will have to use and many many theraputic approaches for everything else you can try on your own. If you babblemail me I'll email you a lot of stuff I have on Asperger's. Tony Attwood's "The Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome" book is a good place to start but there are several more plus dozens of sites and blogs with info you need.

C-PTSD: social phobia, major depression, dissociation. 20 yrs duration.
Asperger's Syndrome.
Currently: 150mg amitriptyline single dose at night. 75mg Lyrica occasionally.
Significantly improving.

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