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Re: 'Not always a cry for help' -

Posted by one woman cine on February 1, 2007, at 7:58:57

In reply to Re: 'Not always a cry for help' - » one woman cine, posted by toojane on January 31, 2007, at 19:55:51

>>"I think if a community had a rule, and enforced it, that members could not harm one another then the need for a "keeping oneself safe" rule would be almost obsolete. I think many/most self-harming behaviours are the products of abuse."

So you are saying the college students are coomitting suicide because of being abused by other college students?

If your answer is yes, I disagree.

>>"Help is also a very relative term. Who determines what is helpful? The history of psychiatry is filled with "helpful" treatments forced on people against their will (insulin comas, wet packs, lobotomies, electric shocks)."

I'm not talking about past history - I'm talking about now. These past abuses by psychiatry are not relevant to reasons why one should not seek help today.

>>"I believe schools threaten expulsion because they are afraid of being sued by distraught parents, not because they are intent on creating responsible communities. These policies were implemented when the lawsuits started. I'm not sure "fair" is a real consideration."

I disagree - I believe people in this academic communities (or any community) grieve and have negative reactions that scar internally after a suicide.


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