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Re: B.S amd more B..S. » Declan

Posted by alexandra_k on September 6, 2005, at 0:06:51

In reply to Re: B.S amd more B..S., posted by Declan on September 5, 2005, at 23:39:03

LOL!!!

You are funny :-)

I went and did a couple drug treatment programs... We had to go to aa/na at least 3x per week.

and i loathed and detested it.

i appreciate that different people have different experiences and it helps a lot of people etc etc

BUT

i just found a whole bunch of people who got together and talked of their past and present lives in a comperable manner to pentecostals talking of their old sinful ways and their rebirth into a child of god.

religious cult.

nobody would work with the addicts.
aa/na stepped in and would work with them.

and that was a very good thing
and they helped a lot of people

but the b*llshit perspective that aa/na abstenence and devoting ones life to carrying out the will of ones higher power is the ONLY way is... b*llshit.

i don't know how religion got all messed up with treatment for addiction...

more work needs to be done with secular programs.

in particular i quite like the sound of a skinnerian token economy for recovery. i could make my fortune :-)

 

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