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Posted by partlycloudy on July 16, 2004, at 17:29:02
Thanks for expressing interest in my EMDR treatment. I thought I'd show you where the thread started. Some of the consequent posts were rather sensitive and my feelings were definitely hurt. I would love to go into the details of the treatment if you're interested, but would rather do it on email instead of subjecting myself to any more comments. you can email me at nancytrautman at yahoo dot com
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20040614/msgs/357356.html
Posted by TexasChic on July 19, 2004, at 11:00:15
In reply to TexasChic - my story with EMDR, posted by partlycloudy on July 16, 2004, at 17:29:02
Thanks! I just discovered this thread. Once I've read the posts I'll email you.
Posted by Jai Narayan on July 19, 2004, at 22:22:14
In reply to Re: TexasChic - my story with EMDR, posted by TexasChic on July 19, 2004, at 11:00:15
You sweet people EMDR has changed my life and I hope it holds the key for you. I am still using this tool to become the most healed person I can be.
Posted by partlycloudy on July 20, 2004, at 7:18:10
In reply to I love EMDR, posted by Jai Narayan on July 19, 2004, at 22:22:14
Me too. It is so much work! I called my EMDR T after our last apppointment because I felt all stirred up and upset, lost. She talked me through calming down; likened the upset to being sore after surgery - which I thought was so apt!! It has made such a change in the "me" other people see; everyone has noticed that I'm brighter and more engaged in life.
I have to work very hard on making meditation a daily discpline. Like any good habit, it is hard for me to start doing regularly...
Posted by partlycloudy on July 20, 2004, at 7:52:41
In reply to Re: I love EMDR » Jai Narayan, posted by partlycloudy on July 20, 2004, at 7:18:10
My therapist has told me that my sense of intuition is well developed. You mentioned that you are an empath (which is incredible!!). Do you think these qualities make the EMDR treatment an easier or more rapid process? When I started doing it with my T, I immediately thought, "I get this!" So exciting.
Posted by gardenergirl on July 20, 2004, at 9:21:00
In reply to Re: I love EMDR » Jai Narayan, posted by partlycloudy on July 20, 2004, at 7:18:10
PC,
You are so right about having to work at meditation. I always have such good intentions. I think I need to make an appt. with myself.
Good luck,
gg
Posted by partlycloudy on July 20, 2004, at 12:34:53
In reply to Re: I love EMDR, posted by gardenergirl on July 20, 2004, at 9:21:00
You know, sometimes you invade my brain and it is so bizarre! Last night I was rushing around; took a shower, started dinner, hubbie put on baseball game (which strangely enough, interested me!), we had a DVD to watch, and I said to myself - when am I going to meditate? I started weirding out on my hubby, who was quite bewildered. Like what's the big deal?? But I just had to talk it through out loud, and ended up: simmered dinner, watched the ballgame, ate the dinner while we watched the DVD (such a bad habit!), then meditated before bed while hubby watched the rest of the game. I really did have to make an appointment with myself to do it, and it did me a world of good.
Posted by TexasChic on July 21, 2004, at 11:09:29
In reply to Re: I love EMDR » gardenergirl, posted by partlycloudy on July 20, 2004, at 12:34:53
I'm not sure I know how to meditate. But I'm going to get that CD you told me about and give it a try. Lately I've just been laying around after work and watching tv. I know I'll feel better once I start doing something more constructive. I'm such a procrastinator about starting something new though (actually I'm a procrastinator about everything). Maybe I'll try making an appointment with myself too!
P.S. I am going to email you about the EMDR, I'm just really busy at work right now.
Posted by gardenergirl on July 21, 2004, at 11:25:51
In reply to Re: I love EMDR » partlycloudy, posted by TexasChic on July 21, 2004, at 11:09:29
PC,
I did it today. I made an appt. with myself. I also bought a book of daily meditations for women who do too much to supplement my mantra meditation. The very first one, today's, was so appropriate to what I am going through I was floored.Good luck with your own practice!
Oh, and they teach us how to get into people's minds in school. :D Just kidding.
gg
Posted by partlycloudy on July 21, 2004, at 12:25:07
In reply to Re: I love EMDR » partlycloudy, posted by TexasChic on July 21, 2004, at 11:09:29
Cool beans! I look forward to hearing from you. Don't work too hard :)
Posted by Jai Narayan on July 22, 2004, at 16:24:08
In reply to Re: I love EMDR, p.s., posted by partlycloudy on July 20, 2004, at 7:52:41
> My therapist has told me that my sense of intuition is well developed. You mentioned that you are an empath (which is incredible!!). Do you think these qualities make the EMDR treatment an easier or more rapid process? When I started doing it with my T, I immediately thought, "I get this!" So exciting.
**You are so darling.
I have been in therapy all my life since I was 10.
I feel...everything.
I can hear emotion where ever it is.EMDR is the only therapy where I walk out of the office and I can feel with certainty that I will not have to go back to that problem again.
I actually have changed.
Some of my most difficult behaviors have changed right to my core.
My being is less vigilant and tense.
I am more myself everyday.I am seeing my T every week and tackling some deeply rooted negative beliefs.
I am rising like the Phoenix from the ashes of my former fearful self.an interesting aside from the dictionary:
Pheonix is from an Egyptian myth. a beautiful, lone bird which lived in the Arabian desert for 500 to 600 years and then consumed itself in a fire, rising renewed from the ashes to start another long life: a symbol of immortality.As I feel I am rising from my former self to live unfettered by the weight of my sorrow and fear.
Gee thanks for asking
Posted by Jai Narayan on July 22, 2004, at 16:32:05
In reply to Re: I love EMDR » gardenergirl, posted by partlycloudy on July 20, 2004, at 12:34:53
Recently I have started to meditate on my own. I guess all the tumblers fell into place and unlocked my resistance.
I now have a schedule (so far only weeks old) I work for a mile on my orbital machine then do my Pilates floor machine then I take a shower and get in the steam capsule for 15 minutes...shower and meditate for 13 minutes and then start my day.
It's a very remarkable program.
I feel open to how I may be changing and getting healthier.
I use to work out and then sometimes meditate...adding the steam has enhanced my experience.
now I actually enjoy meditation.
go firgure?
Posted by TexasChic on July 22, 2004, at 16:48:49
In reply to Re: I love EMDR, p.s., posted by Jai Narayan on July 22, 2004, at 16:24:08
<I am rising like the Phoenix from the ashes of my former fearful self.
an interesting aside from the dictionary:
Pheonix is from an Egyptian myth. a beautiful, lone bird which lived in the Arabian desert for 500 to 600 years and then consumed itself in a fire, rising renewed from the ashes to start another long life: a symbol of immortality.As I feel I am rising from my former self to live unfettered by the weight of my sorrow and fear.>
Wow, that is beautiful. I hope I can achieve that someday. I think I'm headed in the right direction at least.
You and PC have really made me want to try meditating. My family would think I'm crazy, but I've come to the realization that they're actually the crazy ones, so I don't care. I think I'll try this weekend to find that guided meditation CD PC told me about. You guys are my inspiration.
Posted by partlycloudy on July 22, 2004, at 17:10:53
In reply to Re: Partlycloudy » Jai Narayan, posted by TexasChic on July 22, 2004, at 16:48:49
Today, I bawled my eyes out at work before lunch because, er... I couldn't really tell you. At lunch time I found an empty conference room, meditated for 10 minutes, and got to ENJOY the rest of my lunch, calm and dry eyed. It was the first time I have put the practice to use in a crisis situation, even though a small one. It was very empowering.
Posted by pegasus on July 22, 2004, at 17:41:26
In reply to Meditation - added bonus! Act now! » TexasChic, posted by partlycloudy on July 22, 2004, at 17:10:53
I've been meditating on and off for a couple of years, too. I find that if I'm doing it consistently, then I seem to have more control over my mind, in terms of being able to manage obsessions, and having a better, more gentle perspective on myself.
I've had trouble using it during crises, though. For example, sometimes I SI, and I've tried meditating when I feel that winding up. But it doesn't help. I think it actually makes it worse. And last year when my T moved away, I stopped meditating for about 6 months, because I couldn't sit with that. I'd just get so upset if I sat down for even a few minutes.
I think the idea is that eventually I'd be able to sit there and feel that aggressivenes or sadness and accept it. But I guess I have a ways to go.
But I'm glad to know my fellow babblers who are meditators too!
pegasus
Posted by partlycloudy on July 22, 2004, at 17:47:31
In reply to Re: Meditation - possible trigger, posted by pegasus on July 22, 2004, at 17:41:26
Hmm... (have you noticed I start a lot of my posts that way?) I've been taught to use the meditation as a healing force. To visualize water or warmth healing over the hurts. It's not a cover up; I've been taught to thank the memories and experiences for what they have taught me, then release them, and heal where they attached themselves to me. Then I work on making new connections to the me I am today.
Would that help you?
Posted by pegasus on July 22, 2004, at 17:59:11
In reply to Re: Meditation - possible trigger » pegasus, posted by partlycloudy on July 22, 2004, at 17:47:31
Oh, that sounds so peaceful and lovely. I think I'll try it. I was taught not to visualize anything in particular, but to just notice what comes up and let it go. And then focus on my breathing. I'm good at the noticing, and not so good at the letting go. I tend to forget to focus on my breathing a lot. But when I'm meditating frequently I get better at it.
I think that, at least at those hard times, visualizing a warm healing force, and especially healing over the places where the bad things attach, would be helpful.
pegasus
Posted by partlycloudy on July 22, 2004, at 18:32:46
In reply to Re: Meditation - possible trigger, posted by pegasus on July 22, 2004, at 17:59:11
OK, so your mind brings up painful things. Think of them as being tethered to you like balloons or as an umbilibal cord would be. Not only attached, but THRIVING because it's attached to you. You let that attachment whither, stop, whatever - it's the past and not the present. You release that tether. It has to whither because it's no longer the past and it needs your pain to continue to thrive. Then you give thanks for what you have learned from those painful experiences. They weren't for nought - they made us who we are now. Then you heal. I use a white light that radiates up from the center of the earth through the souls of my feet, and bathes my midsection. Let it go, with thanks. Part of your past, not your present. Release it with joy and thanks.
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