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Re: How to stop smoking WEED?

Posted by starlight on July 27, 2004, at 15:24:24

In reply to How to stop smoking WEED?, posted by Cottonwool on July 20, 2004, at 11:09:29

You got written up for smelling like weed? That's outrageous. How do they know what you were doing. Do they have a weed smell monitor? You didn't admit it did you? You have to be very careful in the workplace...

My experience with trying to quit a behavior that I engage in is that there has to be something that I'd prefer to do more - something I want more. Feeling guilty about it is counterproductive. And if your significant other smokes too that makes it even harder.

Good luck and try not to worry about it or invest any more energy in feeling bad about yourself because of it. If you were in Canada or in a place where it was easily accepted you wouldn't have those feelings at all.
starlight

 

Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!

Posted by TexasChic on July 27, 2004, at 15:41:21

In reply to Re: How to stop smoking WEED?, posted by starlight on July 27, 2004, at 15:24:24

I've been applying for jobs that I'm sure will drug test. I know I should stop smoking *right now* in order to have the most time to get it out of my system. But I keep putting it off, reasoning I may not *get* any of these jobs and would have quit for nothing. Obviously I'm having trouble giving it up. I think a part of it is the fact that I just moved into an apartment and this is the first time I can smoke in my own home. Its only been a couple of weeks, so I'm not ready to give it up yet! Also, I've been using it to help with my anxiety, which will make it even harder to give up. I have plans to start meditating, exercising, and doing yoga, which might help. I'm just such a procrastinator. I'm pretty sure I will do like Cottonwool and start binge drinking. Anyway, I saw this post and had to write. Any advice will be appreciated.

 

Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!

Posted by starlight on July 27, 2004, at 15:46:19

In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by TexasChic on July 27, 2004, at 15:41:21

If you're in your own apartment, and you're the only one who smokes, then don't have any around. Finish what you've got and don't buy any more. Take long walks in the evening - and see if your doc can give you anything to help with anxiety. Don't feel bad though I did the same thing when I was applying for a job that tested. Remember that there is no physical addiction, just psychological. So just replace your smoking time with something else. Yoga's good. Good luck.
starlight

 

Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!

Posted by TexasChic on July 27, 2004, at 15:51:34

In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by starlight on July 27, 2004, at 15:46:19

Thanks, those are some good ideas. I think my problem has been that I still have some and felt as if I had to stop right now, and then would have it sitting there waiting to be smoked. But just finishing it off and not buying anymore might do the trick. I guess I was trying to make it harder than it was. Thanks again.

 

Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too! » TexasChic

Posted by partlycloudy on July 28, 2004, at 8:57:24

In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by TexasChic on July 27, 2004, at 15:51:34

I just started a little morning cough and I'm so freaked out I stopped smoking immediately. I think it's due to allergies but I'd be mortified if I made myself sick from smoking. Fear is a great aversion for me!! I too have to find something else to do for the anxiety. I won't go for a walk as it's about 90 degrees in the evening and I already sweat just from thinking hard... plus I feel guilty taking "quality time" away from my husband in the evening. He travels so much I really treasure being together.

 

Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!

Posted by starlight on July 28, 2004, at 13:11:56

In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too! ? TexasChic, posted by partlycloudy on July 28, 2004, at 8:57:24

Another way to quit. Put your baggie of weed, in another baggie that has some water in it then freeze it. That way you know it's there, but if you really want it, you have to wait for it to thaw, and by then you're usually back to not wanting it.

 

Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!

Posted by anthology on August 1, 2004, at 16:33:19

In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by starlight on July 28, 2004, at 13:11:56

Damn... When I think of not smoking weed, I wonder how i will make it thru. I know i need to stop because i've smoked for years and i think that all the smoking has taken it's toll. I don't want to do ANYTHING! When i don't smoke i feel really grouchy and cranky. I mean it's like i have the devil inside of me.(not religiously speaking) I just get really, really hatefull. Then sometimes i think i don't want to stop smoking, i just want if out of my system for a while. Just so i can regain some energy and motivation. Does anyone relate to this? Btw, i hate drinking. i used to drink ALL THE TIME. I loved it, but now, can't stomach it. Weed is different, weed is my baby, i love weed. I can't stop! But it's hurting me now. i just need to ease off of it and clean out. How do i clear my mind and body from this substance? In my opinion, or how i think of it i should say, is that weed has this energy the has consumed me. i read one of the post, someone had mentioned to replace smoking with something else. Everything i do goes hand in hand with smoking, i.e., Eating, games, movies, tv, WORKING!! Please advise, Thank You

 

Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!

Posted by TexasChic on August 3, 2004, at 15:01:39

In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by anthology on August 1, 2004, at 16:33:19

Dude, I'm right there with you. I'm so full of anxiety these days, all I look forward to is going home and smoking. I have been trying to put it off by reading a book or something – which does help me put it off. But I still want it before the nights over. The best is when I put it off so long I don't want to smoke before I go to bed, because then I won't be awake to enjoy it, which to me would be a waste. I think the problem is we become psychologically dependent on it to escape our problems. At least that's how I feel about it. So I guess the trick is to take care of the problems we're trying to escape. Of course if it was that easy, we wouldn't have ever taken it up in the first place. Anyway, I just wanted to say I understand, and if you come up with any pointers, let me know.

 

Re: Yes, starlight i agree and..

Posted by jonh kimble on August 10, 2004, at 0:29:46

In reply to Re: How to stop smoking WEED?, posted by starlight on July 27, 2004, at 15:24:24

Hi. Well I feel like anything I say will be a direct copy of what you said so maybe just an affirmation of finding something better than well whatever drug does the temporary trick. See drugs never made me kill anyone, (well lets start a little lower) or do anything really nuts. What I THINK they did is accustom me to immediate reward. Its hard to see in the murk of so many different drugs. I mean lsd makes me think wonderful things, pot too to a lesser degree.. But the best highs are (no i dont work for the nida) the times I did something, got the same high as drugs, but also the high of the intellectual, the monetary, the social, the whatever that drugs just wont do consistently. I say this without REALLY living it. Just last night picked up some meth. But I KNOW that there are better things. Social relations are great for this. Try going out with friends and laughing at what you just said cause you're so freakin smart, and/ or social acceptance is a great high. Sex! What the hell happened to the greatest dopamine surge that exists? Maybe thats not you're thing, but it should be. Ok this is rather murky and all but its a thought that I think is well worth pursuing. Cause when you get nothing but THROUGH your day, it would be crazy to say that your an idiot for doing drugs. We all need to feel high, sadly drugs are the easiest and most devastating way to get there. Did this make sense? Get high on telling me Im an idiot if it didnt. Id be proud.

 

Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too! » TexasChic

Posted by octopusprime on August 11, 2004, at 0:51:17

In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by TexasChic on August 3, 2004, at 15:01:39

> So I guess the trick is to take care of the problems we're trying to escape.

this is funny to me texaschic ...

when i quit smoking daily, i didn't bother solving my problems first. in fact, quitting smoking weed made some of my problems worse. my social network thought i was "weird" for not smoking up. some of my friends couldn't relate to me when i was sober. and i lost friends. and made things worse. it was hard. hard. hard.

but then again: when i quit it was on the advice of my doctor. that my psych meds would never get a fair trial if i didn't try quitting. and i was more scared about being depressed for the rest of my life, about feeling awful forever, that quitting weed and causing problems was worth it to avoid that pain.

it took me forever to work on solving the problems that "caused" me to smoke. in a way i haven't solved them, i wouldn't be returning to med therapy if i had. but i did wind up meeting a man who had just quit smoking dope, had a relationship with him (learning how to behave sober almost the whole time), left a relationship with him, and spent some time on my own filling my days without drugs. hard. hard. hard. but worth it! so worth it. i can't recognize the person i left behind two years ago when i quit. i feel so much stronger in so many ways.

but i think "solving your problems" first is a red herring ... we can never solve all our problems. if you don't have a compelling reason to quit, don't. but i did it for my mental health, and for that i was grateful, so if that's at all inspirational to you, take hold of that. if it's not, leave it, and do what makes you happy.

 

Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too! » octopusprime

Posted by TexasChic on August 11, 2004, at 16:06:54

In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too! » TexasChic, posted by octopusprime on August 11, 2004, at 0:51:17

> when i quit smoking daily, i didn't bother solving my problems first. in fact, quitting smoking weed made some of my problems worse. my social network thought i was "weird" for not smoking up. some of my friends couldn't relate to me when i was sober. and i lost friends. and made things worse. it was hard. hard. hard.
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> but then again: when i quit it was on the advice of my doctor. that my psych meds would never get a fair trial if i didn't try quitting. and i was more scared about being depressed for the rest of my life, about feeling awful forever, that quitting weed and causing problems was worth it to avoid that pain.
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> it took me forever to work on solving the problems that "caused" me to smoke. in a way i haven't solved them, i wouldn't be returning to med therapy if i had. but i did wind up meeting a man who had just quit smoking dope, had a relationship with him (learning how to behave sober almost the whole time), left a relationship with him, and spent some time on my own filling my days without drugs. hard. hard. hard. but worth it! so worth it. i can't recognize the person i left behind two years ago when i quit. i feel so much stronger in so many ways.
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> but i think "solving your problems" first is a red herring ... we can never solve all our problems. if you don't have a compelling reason to quit, don't. but i did it for my mental health, and for that i was grateful, so if that's at all inspirational to you, take hold of that. if it's not, leave it, and do what makes you happy.
>

Touché.

 

Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!

Posted by lulu garcia on August 11, 2004, at 22:16:28

In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too! » octopusprime, posted by TexasChic on August 11, 2004, at 16:06:54

I'ts social... If we lived in a more tolerant society, we probably wouldn't get all psyched up because of this... but we still gotta quit...

luck to all!

 

Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!

Posted by Starlight on August 20, 2004, at 14:40:56

In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by lulu garcia on August 11, 2004, at 22:16:28

I bet we'd all feel differently if it were both socially and legally acceptable. It's kind of like drinking (only ultimately better since it has none of the superdetrimental side effects of alcohol). One thing I like about it is the way that it transports me to a more spiritual place - I've decided that my new religion is Rasta! And I hate the adds that infer that it's a gateway drug. I've never tried anything else as a result of smoking weed. Never wanted to. I tried LSD and Mescaline in college, but that was for different purposes.
Starlight

 

Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too! » Starlight

Posted by TexasChic on September 15, 2004, at 9:01:35

In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by Starlight on August 20, 2004, at 14:40:56

If its a gateway drug, then so is alcohol. I mean, what's the difference anyway? I think its so hypocritical that our society frowns on weed, but accepts alcohol, which is a man made product specifically designed to get you drunk (high). I honestly think keeping pot illegal is a political money making thing. There just isn't a logical reason to allow alcohol but not pot into our society.
Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now.

 

How I stoped smoking WEED » Cottonwool

Posted by watergirl on September 17, 2004, at 21:44:23

In reply to How to stop smoking WEED?, posted by Cottonwool on July 20, 2004, at 11:09:29

I used to somke ALOT-ALOT-ALOT of pot! Consistently for 12 years (with the exception of my pregnancy and while I nursed). I'm 28.
When I started taking effexor XR I smoked more pot than ever before. At that time, my then fiance (who is a major pothead), would coment that I should just glue the damn pipe to my lips.

.... Effexor was awfull for me (just my personal experience) I had soo much anxiety while on the drug, I could not have survived without smoking pot......UNTIL I was prescribed Xanex (which took "the edge" off), then taken off of the Effexor.

When Wellbutrin was prescribed to me, I MAGICALLY DID NOT WANT TO SMOKE ANY WEED! ! I just had no desire, it was amazing! I did'nt care about smoking cigerettes or drinking alcohol.
Wellbutrin was my miracle drug. Wellbutrin saved my life and restored my sanity!
Best Wishes,
Cindy
I also broke up with my fiance, he could not handle my mood swings while I was on Effexor. I think being away from the weed and my ex, also helped too.
Best Wishes,
Cindy

**After not smoking any weed for almot 4 months, I smoked on Tuesday evening then went to the bar with my girlfriend. I felt good and had fun. Then I went to my boyfriends house and pretty much destroyed our relationship because he would not recriprocate with Oral Sex. DUMB, DUMB
I hope I'll learn one of these days

** I dont take Wellbutrin any more :(

 

Re: Drug test monday

Posted by TexasChic on October 8, 2004, at 12:52:52

In reply to How I stoped smoking WEED » Cottonwool, posted by watergirl on September 17, 2004, at 21:44:23

Okay, I stopped smoking weed about 4 weeks ago. It was pretty much everyday before then, and little activity. I've been pretty active the last two weeks at a job that takes alot of physical exertion and sweat. So do you think I'll be good for the test? I'm tempted to go get a drug test from the drug store, but they're about $60 bucks.
I plan to drink lots of water, but am not sure when to start. The night before? 12 hours before? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

Re: Drug test monday

Posted by partlycloudy on October 10, 2004, at 13:45:57

In reply to Re: Drug test monday, posted by TexasChic on October 8, 2004, at 12:52:52

You'll be fine. 4 weeks is plenty enough time to get it out of your system. Drink as much water as you like (I do drink a lot anyway, but especially when I know I have something traceable in my blood). I kept waiting for the axe to fall (I had smoked 72 hours before the test because I was hired so quickly) after my drug test. I did one of those alka-seltzer type purification systems, and it is mostly water...
You'll be fine. I am so glad for you.

 

Re: Drug test monday » partlycloudy

Posted by TexasChic on October 10, 2004, at 21:08:09

In reply to Re: Drug test monday, posted by partlycloudy on October 10, 2004, at 13:45:57

Thanks PC. I did a home test and the line for THC was lighter than all the other lines. The insert said lighter or darker lines didn't mean anything and not to read anything into it. But it was so very, very faint, I don't know what to think. I got some detox tea, and plan to drink alot of water tomorrow, I'm just worried about being tagged as someone trying to beat the test. I'm going to take vitamins so it won't be too clear, and I've also heard asprin works as a screen. I guess I'm over reacting, but that's what I do best! I'll be very relieved once I am actually sitting behind that desk!

 

Re: I passed! Yea! (nm)

Posted by TexasChic on October 12, 2004, at 21:51:42

In reply to Re: Drug test monday » partlycloudy, posted by TexasChic on October 10, 2004, at 21:08:09

 

Congratulations, TC - another hurdle passed. (nm)

Posted by partlycloudy on October 13, 2004, at 4:43:29

In reply to Re: I passed! Yea! (nm), posted by TexasChic on October 12, 2004, at 21:51:42

 

know thy self

Posted by lulugarcia on October 16, 2004, at 9:39:29

In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by lulu garcia on August 11, 2004, at 22:16:28

so... it's been a little more than a month that I stopped smoking. i had smoked, regularly (almost everyday), for ten years. i have to say, it feels good. i'm not saying that smoking weed is bad. of course we live in an intolerant society, and this doesn't help. but i do think that one of the things about smoking weed, or doing any other drug, for that matter (because, let's not lie to ourselves, marijuana is a drug), is to know when to stop, to know when is enough. and also to accept that a regular pot smoker is, to a certian extent, less productive than someone who is clean (i hate that word, as if pot was dirty). and the fact that we live in a extremely competitive and over-productive society puts us, oh dear weed worshipers, in a disvantageous and awkward position. i'm not saying i'm quiting for ever, or telling anyone to do so. i don't want to be a moralist. but know (yes you) that one of the best things in life is two know oneself (to get to know oneself is both a delighful and intriguing process), and marijuana sometimes gets in the way, thus bluring our selfimage, our selfknowledge, and therefore our disires and goals in life. marijuana is not always a carrier of knowlegde.

peace.

 

Re: I've got to figure out how to stoptexaschic

Posted by stankdtree on December 8, 2004, at 21:08:43

In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by anthology on August 1, 2004, at 16:33:19


hey texas chic i have the same wrong wid me if u find out how plz let me know ive been smoking for 10 yrs an feel i cant cope without it everything i do includes weed and when i dont have it there is nothing that can replace it

 

Re: How I stoped smoking WEED

Posted by wilson711 on December 26, 2004, at 23:36:58

In reply to How I stoped smoking WEED » Cottonwool, posted by watergirl on September 17, 2004, at 21:44:23

I was doing a random google search for any information or suggestions on how to temporaraliy quit smoking weed for a drug test that is coming up. I read almost every one of these posts because I feel like everyone here knows how difficult this really is. I have been smoking weed everyday, 1-10 times a day, for the past 3 years. My boyfriend of 2 years and I have gone to Amsterdam for the cannabis cup, smoked some of the best weed in the world, and now I have to give up my favorite hobby!
Smoking weed is truely my passion. I am in college and doing very well. I have gotten two scholarships and passed every class. There really isn't any reason for me to think that weed is negatively affecting my life. The ONE AND ONLY reason I am quitting is for a drug test. After I graduate, I am going into a profession where random drug tests will most definitly occur. I have about 5 days left of smoking, and rather than smoking some good stuff right now, I am here writing because I am so worried about how this hiatus will affect me and my realtionship with my boyfriend. (His profession does not drug test)
When weed is hard to find, or I don't have any when I want to smoke, I get very mean. I know you all know what I am talking about. Sometimes (though I hate to admit it) I will even cry if I can't get it. Now when I take a step back this sort of seems like how a cocaine addict would act although I don't have any physical withdrawls. I already see myself getting angry at my friends who will still be sitting around ripping bongs and listening to music. I know the best thing would be to stop hanging out with them, but I have known them for years!
I then start to think, "why the hell would I choose this profession with all these drug tests?" I could be much more happy if I just moved to Amsterdam and started my own coffeeshop, but I guess that is not in my cards. I am giving up one of the biggest parts of me and honestly I'm scared. Will I be the same when I quit? Will I still like my friends? Will my entire life SUCK after this?? I can't imagine doing my daily activities without being stoned. It just seems like it wouldn't be as fun! I don't know, I guess I have no choice. I started to think about other careers I could have chosen. After a couple years of college on a track towards one major, it might be pointless to change now. Then again, I might be a lot happier. Smoking weed is a part of me, and I don't know if stopping for a career that is against that is worth it. If anyone has some advice, I could use it. Thanks

 

Re: know thy self

Posted by starlight on December 30, 2004, at 0:37:15

In reply to know thy self, posted by lulugarcia on October 16, 2004, at 9:39:29

This is such an excellent post. I'd like to quit. But I haven't yet. This has been a very hard year to cope with, and I've found myself smoking more now than never. I'd like to have the epiphany that would release me from this in an instant, but then, I enjoy the feeling as well. It's a tough place. I've been having lower back pain as well and am taking flexeril for that, and worry about my tendency to like to be drugged up.

My past has been very painful, but my present is lovely. I try to focus on the present - to be present minded yet the habit is constant, and it seems that I have convinced myself that it's better. But in the end, I worry about my lungs and health, and also think I'd be more productive as an artist and in my day job. My dad always said that I had no willpower and I'd like to see myself prove that wrong, but no luck so far....

I was bullimic/anorexic when I was in my late teens, early twenties, so the addiction thing is in my genes. I'm aware of it, but so far, have yet to control it through willpower and not feel like I'm missing something.

I also take Effexor XR - 75 mgs, lamictal and trileptal too - so when you add all those factors in - I worry that I might have a problem.
Thanks for reading and happy new year to all of you.
starlight

 

Re: How I stoped smoking WEED

Posted by Sebastian on January 6, 2005, at 21:23:32

In reply to Re: How I stoped smoking WEED, posted by wilson711 on December 26, 2004, at 23:36:58

What profeshion are you going into? Is there a different company you could work for? Could you start your own bussiness? Can someone else pee for you? I've known people in the army who smoke, and pass tests. I think the vigorous exercise, lots of water, and not being excesive in your smoking; can work.

I was quit for 3 years, yess your life will suck, you will have no freinds that you enjoy hanging with. You must change everything, or go out and not smoke which sucks. One thing that helped me was a night cap of zyprexa, the sedative in it gave me sleep. When I stoped the zyprexa I could not sleep. Thats an option. I think it makes you not want the pot as much. I would find myself wanting to not smoke for periods at a time out of knowhere. I went 3 years and now I am going NUTS. My parents which I still live with will through me out if I smoke pot. I'm 28, I should move out, but now I have no freinds???, since I stoped the pot. I didn't want to hang out anymore. I feel awfull, all I can think about is making new freinds, which is not happening, because I don't know how to have fun with out the pot. so I take meds all day and night, since I quit the pot I went from needing one med dose pill, to taking 5 meds all at med or high doses. And it still is not enough. I want to drink all the time and its making me sick, not to mention the anger consumes me..... If you have a joint could you send it to me?????


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