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Posted by Phillipa on November 21, 2006, at 16:30:36
And hasimotos thyrooiditis. Hi I usually don't post here but two quetions first my husband has lost most of his top hair any supplments that help. And I have hasimotos thyroiditis and recently am hyper? wierd huh? So endo decreased the doses of synthroid. Feeling horrible with anger attacks, no energy, sleeping too long. Anyone know why my hair is also thinning? Love Phillipa
Posted by qqqsimmons on November 22, 2006, at 12:52:06
In reply to Any Supplements Etc. For hair loss both balding an, posted by Phillipa on November 21, 2006, at 16:30:36
so you are both hypo and hyper??? well, i guess hair thinning can be a symptom of hypo...maybe you've just got to find the right balance???
i've experience fatigue and facial rashes due to temporary hypo...
Posted by verne on November 22, 2006, at 18:02:19
In reply to Any Supplements Etc. For hair loss both balding an, posted by Phillipa on November 21, 2006, at 16:30:36
check out Bhringraj
http://www.ayurvedic-medicines.com/herbs/bhringraj.html
Nicknamed "Ruler of the Hair"
verne
Posted by tealady on November 22, 2006, at 18:31:30
In reply to Re: Any Supplements Etc. For hair loss both balding an » Phillipa, posted by verne on November 22, 2006, at 18:02:19
check out Bhringraj
http://www.ayurvedic-medicines.com/herbs/bhringraj.html
Nicknamed "Ruler of the Hair
That's interesting Verne. have you tried it?
Jan
Posted by verne on November 22, 2006, at 21:34:25
In reply to Re: Bhringraj. For hair loss » verne, posted by tealady on November 22, 2006, at 18:31:30
Jan,
I did try the massage oil - I think it was mixed with coconut oil - and it was just too much trouble and mess. I had to wear a special cap at night.
I have thinning hair but have never been concerned about it. I think the mixture the ayurvedic doctor prescribed for me had to do with insomnia, anxiety, or just an overheated liver (drinking)
I'm intrigued about Bhringraj after reading about it again. Sounds calming, "promotes sound sleep". Further, it helps rejuvenate bones, teeth, hair, sight, and memory according to "The Yoga of Herbs".
It is similar to gota kola and sometimes substituted for dandelion. I read also that it "reverses balding" and is good for "mental disorders".
It is neutral in that it doesn't increase any of the doshas: pitta, vata, or kapha.
I'm thinking about trying it in tea, capsules, and topical oil. This time, however, I won't do my entire head but just put a few drops on my forehead (6th chakra), wrists, and perhaps my right side.
I've tried that Cayce castor oil pack on my right side after a heavy bout of drinking and I know it helps. Perhaps, I could include Bhringraj oil and skip the drinking this time.
If you start oiling your head, be careful to wash the cap thoroughly before putting in the dryer. A lot of people around here do the oil and cap thing and dryer fires are not uncommon.
verne
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on November 24, 2006, at 8:13:44
In reply to Any Supplements Etc. For hair loss both balding an, posted by Phillipa on November 21, 2006, at 16:30:36
Rosemary oil is said to counter baldness.....look it up on wikipeida or something I can't remember the specifics unfortunately....
Kind regards
Meri
Posted by tealady on November 25, 2006, at 0:12:31
In reply to Re: Bhringraj. For hair loss » tealady, posted by verne on November 22, 2006, at 21:34:25
Yes, it was the total effects of bhringraj , not just the hair that had me interested.
I know nothing about ayurvedic medicine though.
I guess I never bothered much as I used to think herbs were dependant a lot on your genetic makeup for how they worked..and I figured I'd probably be sufficiently different from those where Ayurvedic medicine has traditionally been practised for them probably not to work with me.I haven't even any idea where I'd purchase it :)
But it does sound worth trying.jan
Posted by verne on November 25, 2006, at 1:17:14
In reply to Re: Bhringraj. For hair loss » verne, posted by tealady on November 25, 2006, at 0:12:31
Here's a US source for the oil ($14.00 for 4ozs). I found lots of sources in India but I'm a little leery about ordering from India (had a bad experience - payment and shipping were a hassle. But I have ordered from this site in New Mexico before and find them reputable:
http://207.188.144.45/products/sidha_soma.html
Some put Bhringraj oil on their feet. They also sell it in powder tea form in combination with other herbs. It seems to be one of the main ingredients in their "Guru" and "Kundalini" teas.
verne
Posted by nolvas on November 25, 2006, at 2:18:53
In reply to Re: Bhringraj. For hair loss, posted by verne on November 25, 2006, at 1:17:14
My experience of hair loss being a male is that it's almost impossible for a male to recover hair as a result of male pattern baldness. However it's accepted in society that men lose their hair. The figure is something like 80% of males lose their hair. For women it is tougher as the % of them losing their hair is far lower.
The mechanism for hair loss is complex in men is complex it's thought to be the hormone DHT (dihydrotestosterone), the enzyme 5 alpha reductase converts testosterone to DHT and drugs such as Proscar and Dutasteride inhibit this conversion. Proscar only inhibitis type one 5 alpha reductase but dutasteride inhibits both type 1 and ii.
The above drugs are still only marginally effective against hair loss, regrowth is never stunning. The reason that people lose their hair in the same pattern is due to the genetic susceptibility of the hair follicles. In men the hair around the sides and back of the head are immune to the mechanism of hair for want of a better word. The body starts an immune response against the hair follicles gradually destroying them, and making them finer until they can't be seen by the naked eye. On closer inspection you will see that the hair is still there just not cosmetically visible.
I believe the person that had the best results with natural treatment was a chinese fella called Waseda.
Here was his regimen >
Vitaminox---$16 (1/4 of 280ml including postage)
GSS(Growing Shot S)---$40
Spironolactone (18/100, No Brand from NewZealand)---$3.40
GSE(Grape Seed Extract from China, 3.5g)---$1.20
Alcohol (total 250ml)---$4.00
Souhakuhi (35g per month)---$1.50
Licorice root(30-40g)---$1.00
Shikon(15g)---$1.00
Bayberry(35g per month)---$1.50
Perilla leaf(15-20g)---$0.80
Zinc Oxide Cream(Restamin Kowa Cream)---$6.16
Ascorbic Acid powder---$0.50
Bottled Lemon Extract---$2.00
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Total -----$79.06The old posts can still be found by searching www.deja.com for waseda. All the relevant posts are to be found in the newsgroup alt.baldspot (unfortunately killed off by a snakeoil salesman called Ernie, who started a flamewar there.)
The best thing I can recommend for anyone losing their hair is to research the formula of chinese herbs that Waseda used and also the formulas by Dr. Peter H. Proctor, PhD, MD who knows as much as any scientist on the subject of hair loss. Peter Proctor's hair loss formulas are based on naturally occurring compounds, so I would still regard them as alternative, they certainly don't act like the powerful drugs I mentioned earlier. Here is his site > http://www.drproctor.com/ (check out the hair FAQ on his site)
I think for a woman to recover her hair then Dr Proctor's formulas are of more benefit. It's usually easier for a female to recover her hair than a male.
I remain bald to this day and just closely shave my head, it's the easiest option for a male. The road to regrowth for a male is a frustation and vain attempt in both meanings of the word. I do understand emotionally what it's like to lose your hair, from the age of 18 mine started to fall and that was one of the worst things emotionally I had to go thorugh. On some days I still wish I had hair, but at the age of nearly 36 now I have certainly learnt to live with it. Hair loss is about how other people see you, if you can think it's their problem not yours then you are half way to recovering from any negative emotions hair loss might instill in your psyche.
Posted by tealady on November 25, 2006, at 3:25:23
In reply to Re: Bhringraj. For hair loss, posted by nolvas on November 25, 2006, at 2:18:53
wow ..thanks, that's intersting stuff.
I actually have a botle of minodial I bought here but haven't been game to try it as yet.
Strange I always thought I had too much NO from other symptoms if anything..
Jan
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