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Posted by AnxiousAnnie on April 11, 2008, at 21:30:30
Hi,
Right now I am a mess, but I googled Valium vs Librium and it brought me here to the 2004 archives. Long story short, not feeling well at all, I was put on Librium and Suboxone when I went into rehab last year. It was the most stable I had ever been in my life, I was happy and also far away from a family of origin that is VERY toxic. When I moved back into the bad situation I started having chest pains. Since Jan., I have been switched from Librium to Ativan to Klonopin and now tonight, my psychiatrist switched me to Valium 5mg.
Can someone please shed some light for me about the difference between Librium and Valium? Librium worked the best for me and I've been on all the benzos, so I am hoping that Valium does similar? I suffer from muscle spasms and IBS/spastic colon as well. The anxiety is getting severe but I am also under a tremendous amount of stress too. How can I decrease the stress? I'm going to try a bath here in a few.
Also - I read there were deaths reported with concurrent use of Suboxone and benzos, which has me concerned considering my heart health has deteriorated the last year.
I'll be back, this site looks fantastic.
Thanks :)
Posted by Amigan on April 12, 2008, at 14:16:38
In reply to New Here - Suboxone and Anxiety meds?, posted by AnxiousAnnie on April 11, 2008, at 21:30:30
All benzodiazepines are similar to each other. Their main differences are potency and half-life. Librium is less potent than Valium, but has longer half-life.
Posted by Amigan on April 12, 2008, at 14:21:22
In reply to Re: New Here - Suboxone and Anxiety meds?, posted by Amigan on April 12, 2008, at 14:16:38
> All benzodiazepines are similar to each other. Their main differences are potency and half-life. Librium is less potent than Valium, but has longer half-life.
I was wrong about the half-life. Valium's half-life is longer.
Posted by AnxiousAnnie on April 12, 2008, at 17:37:22
In reply to Re: New Here - Suboxone and Anxiety meds?, posted by Amigan on April 12, 2008, at 14:21:22
All benzodiazepines are similar to each other. Their main differences are potency and half-life. Librium is less potent than Valium, but has longer half-life.
I was wrong about the half-life. Valium's half-life is longer.
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Thanks! I'm surprised I didn't get more responses :( Do I have someone's previous username that was here before? It seems there are a lot of people here. I gotta find time to read everything - maybe the question was posed before??
Oh well.
Thanks again! Maybe later I can find some time to read more on the boards.
Posted by ClearSkies on April 12, 2008, at 19:08:23
In reply to Re: New Here - Suboxone and Anxiety meds? » Amigan, posted by AnxiousAnnie on April 12, 2008, at 17:37:22
> All benzodiazepines are similar to each other. Their main differences are potency and half-life. Librium is less potent than Valium, but has longer half-life.
> I was wrong about the half-life. Valium's half-life is longer.
> ====================================================================================================
> Thanks! I'm surprised I didn't get more responses :( Do I have someone's previous username that was here before? It seems there are a lot of people here. I gotta find time to read everything - maybe the question was posed before??
> Oh well.
> Thanks again! Maybe later I can find some time to read more on the boards.
>
>This board can be a bit slow on the weekends - go figure! (People are busy abusing substances maybe?)
You could try the search feature on the site and see what comes up - and you might get more responses to this thread during the week.
As to ways to dealing with anxiety, I've been on a really low dose of Xanax for over 4 years now (at .5mg per day) and it keeps a handle on my formerly unmanageable anxiety and panic attacks. I've gone back to my weekly yoga practice - a stress buster class; and each night I do a mindfulness exercise as part of my getting-ready-to-go-to-sleep ritual.
I enjoy using aromatherapy for relaxation and always have some lavender handy for a quick whiff. I have an extensive library of CDs of ambient music, nature sounds, and guided meditation. It's a little bit of finding the combination that works best for you - those are some of the things that have helped me.
Take care
ClearSkies
Posted by AnxiousAnnie on April 12, 2008, at 21:59:54
In reply to Re: New Here - Suboxone and Anxiety meds? » AnxiousAnnie, posted by ClearSkies on April 12, 2008, at 19:08:23
> This board can be a bit slow on the weekends - go figure! (People are busy abusing substances maybe?)
>
> You could try the search feature on the site and see what comes up - and you might get more responses to this thread during the week.
>
> As to ways to dealing with anxiety, I've been on a really low dose of Xanax for over 4 years now (at .5mg per day) and it keeps a handle on my formerly unmanageable anxiety and panic attacks. I've gone back to my weekly yoga practice - a stress buster class; and each night I do a mindfulness exercise as part of my getting-ready-to-go-to-sleep ritual.
>
> I enjoy using aromatherapy for relaxation and always have some lavender handy for a quick whiff. I have an extensive library of CDs of ambient music, nature sounds, and guided meditation. It's a little bit of finding the combination that works best for you - those are some of the things that have helped me.
>
> Take care
> ClearSkies
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Thanks so much! I just got switched to Valium 5mg 2x a day. I have been wanting to go back to do Yoga---you do it once a week? Is it beneficial to do it more do you think, or should I start out once a week? I loved it in rehab last year, gawd it made me so calm! It helped me become in tune with my body too. Please---please could you tell me what your mindfulness exercise is? DBT was suggested to me, but I can't afford it, and mindfulness was suggested as well, but I have found no resources to start practicing it. I need a before-bed-time ritual, because I am under a tremendous amount of stress and anxiety, my living environment is super toxic. I sniff the lavender from a jar I bought at the store-instant feel good. I need to find some CD's to listen to before sleep. I really need to start practicing all this, I am really suffering and am quite concerned if I don't get my act together, I will become even more ill.
Anyway, thank you again.
Posted by Sigismund on April 13, 2008, at 1:58:14
In reply to Re: New Here - Suboxone and Anxiety meds? » ClearSkies, posted by AnxiousAnnie on April 12, 2008, at 21:59:54
Tianeptine is said to be good for IBS and is suitable for recovering alcoholics.
It is relatively benign and easy enough to stop.
I found it useful.
There have been lots of threads about it here which you can search for.
Posted by ClearSkies on April 13, 2008, at 10:30:54
In reply to Re: New Here - Suboxone and Anxiety meds? » ClearSkies, posted by AnxiousAnnie on April 12, 2008, at 21:59:54
Here are two CD's that I'm currently using for guided imagery and meditation practice:
"Combat Depression" - from Healthjourneys, (sorry, but that one didn't link to Amazon) and
I've also tried some Deepak Chopra, but didn't find his voice all that soothing. Sometimes I'll check iTunes for downloadable podcasts to try too. Just keep looking and try everything that you find until you resonate with something - it really has been hit or miss with me. And also I like to switch out recordings that I listen to, to prevent my mind from skipping ahead on the bits that it no longer wants to listen to!
As to the yoga practice, once a week is about all I can manage at the moment, but I think I would benefit from going twice a week even more. A little bit of yoga is better than none at all! And then again, it took me a while to find a studio and teacher I was comfortable with - it's of no benefit to go to a studio that's dirty or study with a teacher whose command of the English language is so poor that I can't understand the instructions (as was my experience at one place). That created its own anxiety! But I'm really glad I stuck with the pursuit and am now in a great practice with a wonderful teacher. Luckily it's easy enough to drop into classes as you wish to try them out.
CS
Posted by AnxiousAnnie on April 13, 2008, at 22:59:36
In reply to Tianeptine » AnxiousAnnie, posted by Sigismund on April 13, 2008, at 1:58:14
Thanks! I did read a post or two about it. I'm not an alcoholic but got hooked to Vicodin, Norco, and Xanax really bad for about 5 years, off and on, in and out of program (NA,AA) decided to go to rehab Oct. 2006, but am back on benzos. I'm glad you found it useful. I'll have to post my story soon, not feeling well tonight.
Posted by AnxiousAnnie on April 13, 2008, at 23:05:17
In reply to Re: New Here - Suboxone and Anxiety meds? » AnxiousAnnie, posted by ClearSkies on April 13, 2008, at 10:30:54
Thank you so much!! Last night, I believe, I did come across one of your posts and you were talking about mindfulness, someone had a class re: a doorknob or something? I need to find it again:) I did go to Target (a store here) and bought a CD, can you believe that I do not know how to use an iPod! lol Anyway, thank you again, I am feeling ill as I am not happy with the meds I'm on currently taking, dangerous interactions, I start them then stop them (myt fault, I know) and I don't think I need to be on Suboxone any longer. I REALLY want to go more holistic. I did so for a year, but I was left an inheritance after my grandmother's death. You get what you pay for--oh does that ring true! I have chronic pain really bad, and need to make some major changes, my health is starting to suffer in all aspects.
Anyway, sorry to ramble, thanks again.
Posted by Sigismund on April 14, 2008, at 3:23:04
In reply to Re: Tianeptine » Sigismund, posted by AnxiousAnnie on April 13, 2008, at 22:59:36
Oh, I'd been thinking to say.....
The reason I mentioned the 'suitable for recovering alcoholics' thing is just that it suggests that as an AD it is not too agitating and might be OK for people whose nerves are shot.
But not everyone finds it useful.
It was the IBS you mentioned that got my interest.
Posted by AnxiousAnnie on April 14, 2008, at 10:54:07
In reply to Re: Tianeptine » AnxiousAnnie, posted by Sigismund on April 14, 2008, at 3:23:04
> Oh, I'd been thinking to say.....
>
> The reason I mentioned the 'suitable for recovering alcoholics' thing is just that it suggests that as an AD it is not too agitating and might be OK for people whose nerves are shot.
>
> But not everyone finds it useful.
>
> It was the IBS you mentioned that got my interest.====================================================================================================AD? My nerves are shot. My gut seems to be 'squirmy' and the starbucks this morning (hopefully that's the cause) is causing my heart to race :| I have done so much damage to my body.
I'm not looking for sympathy, sorry tocomplain, just having the hardest time of my life, and i don't know where to start to fix it.
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 26, 2008, at 1:11:19
In reply to New Here - Suboxone and Anxiety meds?, posted by AnxiousAnnie on April 11, 2008, at 21:30:30
> Right now I am a mess, but I googled Valium vs Librium and it brought me here to the 2004 archives.
I'm sorry you're not feeling better, but please don't change your posting name without following these steps:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#names
I'm going to block this name, please either return to your previous one or switch (following the above steps) to another new one.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.
Thanks,
Bob
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