Posted by ace on October 2, 2007, at 22:42:30
In reply to Re: Attn all Nardil users!/Ace, posted by stargazer2 on October 2, 2007, at 12:39:17
> Hi Ace, I have always read your posts and been envious of your continued success on Nardil. How long has it been helpful to you and what did you mean by fall 8, rise 9 times, was this your success/failure record with Nardil or overall with depression?
No no. Nardil usually is wonderful. I screwed around with the dose and payed the price. I brought my dose up last night- within 8 hours was feeling much better. nardil really is a life saver! Yesterday I felt very down. When I said fall 8 times, rise 9- that is my personaly philosophy- never give in. Even when I am writhing in depression, I must soldier on.
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> I started on Nardil this year in May after being on Emsam and over the past 5 months have had varying degrees of success with Nardil. Some of the add-ons have included Abilify, Buproprion (OK on generic, but not good on the generic called budeprion), Amphetamine (hypertensive crisis at 10 mg, OK on 2.5 and 5 mg), Lamictal (no effect).With nardil- you REALLY have to be patient some-times. It can take a dose of 90mg for 12 weeks to kick in...and when it kicks in- boy you will know about it!!!
The add-ons have been to augment Nardil, or for other ailments?
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> On 8/17 I began Nortriptylline 25. I was already on Nardil 30 which I had reduced from 45 after the hypertensive crisis. I also saw an endocrinologist and my TSH level was normal, but slightly higher than they liked, given my history of TRD. I began synthroid 50 mcg on 8/15.I wouldn't recommend TCA's with MAOI's- although they have been used with success. I havent seen enough evidence to see they creat a robust response. But, for the right person, they could.
> The Nortriptyline was increased to 75 mg but reduced to 50 mg based on my SE of severe dry mouth and dizziness.
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> I also increased the Nardil from 30 back to 45 at the end of August as my mood remained poor. The addition of these 3 meds (Synthroid, Nortriptylline and Nardil) has brought me to a place right now that feels fairly stable.Ok- from what I have read here, I personally don't think you have given Nardil a high enough dose for a long enough time. 30mg, in most, does not really do to mich i feel. 60mg seems to be the MINIMUM. But if you are stable now, maybe stick with this? But one part of me feels that you might fly high on 90mg! So it's a hard one!
Nardil monotherapy, or with one add-on, can really do the trick, with the right doses.> What meds are you currently on?
Nardil- 90mg (was on 60mg- need the extra 30mg)
Xanax 1mg
Seroquel- 25mgContemplating trying different atypicals for the OCD- my OCD is a very severe case.
What other meds have you tried with nardil?
So many! Here is some...
Lithium
Lamictal
Zyprexa
Pindolol
Clonodine
Wellbutrine
2 TCA's (forgot which ones)
NRI
Neurontinmany more too!
None have really done much, except Seroquel and Zyprexa.
I know Wellbutrin, Abilify and Lamictal are OK with Nardil. NOrtriptylline is not offically sanctioned with Nardil but I have read the TCA's are ok with the exception of anafrnil.
They are- I still would proceed with caution. I have taken so many drugs/foos containdicated with Nardil. No probs 99% of the time. maybe someone need to update the monograph!
> I hope you find something that turns your depression around quickly. You have had such success in the past with Nardil, I hope you get to that place again soon.
Thanks! well the 90mg did it- within 8 hours!
Now OCD is my next fish to fry!Thanks so much mate- you take good care.
Ace
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