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Re: Attn all Nardil users!/Ace » stargazer2

Posted by ace on October 4, 2007, at 1:14:56

In reply to Re: Attn all Nardil users!/Ace, posted by stargazer2 on October 3, 2007, at 7:23:01

> Ace,
> I added a TCA after reading about the safety of it in a journal called "Current Psychiatry, Vol. 1/June 2002". I gave my pdoc a copy of it. Also I know SLS was taking a TCA with Nardil.


Cheers mate- i have this article at home- it's a very good article- esp with regards to it's comments on hypertensive problems. I feel you are, for the greater part, safer at HOME than in a hospital when suffering this syndrome. In my experience and what I have read, this is the case!

New doctors simply do not know the mechanisms of MAOI's- it's that simple. They are not taught about them at all, except that they are 'scary' meds, with a huge list of contraindications.

I think it is generally safe, but can pose several additional s/effects (mostly annoyances).
However, ofcourse, stay clear of Anafranil. Generally better to start the TCA first I feel too.

In addition, I havent seen a substantial thereaputic benefit, in using the two together. However, that is certainly not to say that the two could produce a robust effect.

I think the TCA's are wonderful drugs- their only problem being that doctors keep their dose too LOW (in contrast to SSRI's- I'm not a big fan!)

But yes, I know Scott was taking and has taken many TCA's with MAOI's with success.

So, i would say if it works for you, go for it!

cheers!
Ace

> Here's the link:
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20061003/msgs/693453.html
>
> Hope that works so you can read the article.
>
> I have tried 60 mg of Nardil but got extremely light headed with BP as low as 70/40 and also had severe GI slowing with severe gas and Constipation ,

How long did you try and stick it out with these s/effects??


so I had to reduce the dosage to 45 which I now take. The 30 was my reaction to the hypertensive episode, which scared me to death (my pdoc too!).

They ARE very scary....In know from experience! But they usually always abate- even without medical assistance! But, always best to be safe!!!


> I was on Nardil 15 mg twice a day in 1989 (the original formula) until it stopped working for me. In retrospect, the dosage was very low and should have been raised but instead I was started on Prozac, the newly released wonder drug.

That dose is VERY small....far too small to access the drug.

> I also took Marplan with great success in 1991 until 1994 until Roche discontinued it since it was losing sales after Prozac and other newer drugs were released.

Marplan was a winner. Seen great things about this. Wonder why they discontinued it?! hmmm...maybe something to do with $$$??!!


> What time do you take the Nardil? DO you split the dosage of 90 or take it once a day.

30 mane. 45 nocte.

However, it is best to split it as much as possible in my experience.


> As far as the poster is saying about the reformulation of Nardil in 2004, I believe it doesn't work like the original since the pill coating breaks down more easily than the original thus affecting absorption times.


This is weird- it has always been a winner. But I believe Link supply Australians with the old formulation. I have spoken to officials about this, and recieved the response that it's active AND inactive ingredients are 100% equivalent.
Hmmm...want to look further into this.

> Great chatting with you and glad to hear you're up and running again.
>
> SG


No probs champ- keep soldiering on!
Ace:)


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