Posted by Larry Hoover on November 1, 2004, at 8:14:06
In reply to Re: Memories *could be a trigger, about dead people* » Larry Hoover, posted by littleone on November 1, 2004, at 1:32:32
> Thanks for your reply Larry. I've always found your posts to be enlightening and wonderful brain fodder.
I make you think, huh? You ever wondered what goes on inside my own cranial vault? Eh? Yoiks!
> > I know they're just going about their waspy business
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> What would a waspy business look like? Stings-R-Us?Cute. Actually, wasps are omnivorous like us. They eat fruit, dead critters of all sorts.... Wasps at a picnic might be as drawn to the fruit or soda as they are to the hotddog and relish.
> Maybe they could include some sort of home protection service? :)
So long as they stayed outside, and respected doorways, I'm ok with that. I think the little devils are free-lancers, though.
> > I believe what I remember.
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> I guess this is the problem I have with the whole false memory thing. I'm kind of hoping that if it *feels* right, you can believe it.There's an issue of logic, here. The feeling right part is a necessary part of belief. It is, however, insufficient to prove believability. There has to be more than just the feeling.
> Is that why you believe yourself, because inside, you just know it is right? Gut instinct.
It's more than gut instinct. I have distinct and separate memories of my mom's facial expression, for example. I have memories of her checking to see that there wasn't visible evidence of the abuse. I just don't remember the abuse itself. That has a generic memory component. It all blends together, one composite. I know what went on between the facial expression and the check for visible damage, but without the same distinctiveness of detail. In between, I went somewhere. I felt the pain, but I was overwhelmed.
The wasp story was telling me something else other than why I fear wasps. It demonstrated my ability to dissociate. I remember running and running and running and running. I remember it now, but that memory was not available to me, for 40 years. Yet, it came back to me in complete richness of detail. But for my exact age (memories aren't time-stamped), I know all the details.
I would suggest that sharpness of detail might be another necessary component for belief. Nonetheless, I described my "generic" blurry recall of the physical abuse itself. The sharpness of recall of the immediate pre-dissociative memories (facial expression, that verbal cue, tone of voice), and the post-dissociative (the physical examination, with dismissive comments (it was for my own good, etc.)), make it all very credible to me. I believe it.
Lar
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